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A little info 16B Cathedral,Please - doug-5er - 08-29-2015

Hi all, Icon_wave
Could you all give me a little insight on this huge monster. A friend picked this set up at a estate sale
for 35.00. Pulled the chassis out looks like no one has been under the hood,but will need a complete
recap and resistor check. Didn't know about the push/pull tuning  all the rubber O rings are shot including
the one behind the dial .What can I expect in performance out of this Beast after the complete redo.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.


RE: A little info 16B Cathedral,Please - SteveJB - 08-29-2015

All the Model 16 variants are great players. It is worth the work it takes to get them going.


RE: A little info 16B Cathedral,Please - morzh - 08-29-2015

Some consider it arguably the best tabletop by Philco. I got one from Ron


RE: A little info 16B Cathedral,Please - TheUniversalDave1 - 08-31-2015

I have a 16B. I found it in the damp basement at my radio club. It sounds great for only replacing the electrolytics.


RE: A little info 16B Cathedral,Please - Nathan Slingerland - 08-31-2015

The various incarnations of the 16B are great radios. I have both the cathedral and a 'shouldered' tombstone versions. Now I just need the two 'peaked-top' variants and I'll be all set. Icon_smile

Anyway, here are some links you may find useful:

Schematic
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/139/M0013139.htm
Better and more complete info, including service bulletins, is available from Chuck Schwark:
http://www.philcorepairbench.com/schematics.htm

Dial Drive Repair
http://www.philcoradio.com/tech/drive.htm

Dial Wheel Repair
http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31864
    Use a small oil filter gasket. Get an equivalent to a Fram 3387A filter and remove the thick rubber gasket.
    It is almost an exact match.

You may need to use glue or epoxy to get the gasket to stay in place.


RE: A little info 16B Cathedral,Please - morzh - 08-31-2015

I have shouldered tombstone (the one from the site's banner), a cathedral (the cabinet is in works at Kirk's), and a console (a gift).


RE: A little info 16B Cathedral,Please - doug-5er - 08-31-2015

(Quote Morzh)a cathedral (the cabinet is in works at Kirk's.)

I'm glad he's just doin your cabinet,JKDD Kirk Icon_biggrin
Thanks for your insight fellas, super clean chassis underneath a few cobwebs here and there don't see any problems
also thanks for the links slingn Icon_thumbup


RE: A little info 16B Cathedral,Please - Steve Davis - 08-31-2015

Quote:Use a small oil filter gasket. Get an equivalent to a Fram 3387A filter and remove the thick rubber gasket.
    It is almost an exact match.
The cross section of the Fram 3387A oil filter gasket is a little small and will require a shim to keep the drive from slipping. Check this thread, scroll to the bottom, I have listed filters that are a better option and will not require shimming.    http://philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=2450&highlight=oil+filter+gasket 
Steve


RE: A little info 16B Cathedral,Please - PhilcoJohn - 09-03-2015

Wow for only $35.00 ! What a steal ! Just take your time restoring it. You can do it.