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Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - markmokris - 09-25-2018

I did this project a while back.  My son was in town and insisted he film it.  -- Mark K8KZ

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXlzx2DwkJw


   

   

   

   


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - Radioroslyn - 09-25-2018

Clever idea.
For me it's just easier to rewind the original.


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - markmokris - 09-25-2018

I was looking for something to use an Arduino for. Icon_biggrin

Mark


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - morzh - 09-25-2018

What's in the blue box?


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - John Bartley - 09-25-2018

(09-25-2018, 01:10 PM)morzh Wrote:  What's in the blue box?

I don't know but I'd guess a signal controlled motor to adjust the vane of the indicator.


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - morzh - 09-25-2018

I thought it is a motor, but was wondering how fast the reaction would be: it needs to be very fast.


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - Arran - 09-26-2018

It's likely sluggish compared to the original movement, which was just a form of variometer like an analog Ohm or Volt meter, which just moves with changes in AGC voltage rather then having to think about things first.
Regards
Arran


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - morzh - 09-26-2018

>>which was just a form of variometer

you mean - galvanometer? It's a crude form of Weston/D'Arsonval galvanometer, indeed used in all analog meters.


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - John Bartley - 09-26-2018

(09-25-2018, 03:46 PM)morzh Wrote:  I thought it is a motor, but was wondering how fast the reaction would be: it needs to be very fast.

They can be very fast. All of the gasoline powered inverter generators that I have worked on use the same sort of system for engine speed control, and that has to be at least as fast as this indicator.


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - morzh - 09-26-2018

I hope so.

Motor is not as reactive. It takes more time for the engine to rev up, then for a human hand to pass the station when rotating the dial while looking at the indicator: the angular speed could be quite high even with slow rotation, and very little needed to pass the tuning point.


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - markmokris - 09-26-2018

It's not a great solution. It is a little slow, and you can even hear the servo make a bit of motor noise as it turns. The servo, the little blue thing, takes commands from the Arduino microcontroller to turn to an angle between 0 and 360 degrees. I did it as more of a novelty than anything else.

I am usually one for authenticity, and this is reversible if I get a working shadow meter. I tried rewinding the coil twice, and I couldn't seem to get t to work very well.

Mark


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - morzh - 09-26-2018

Have you tried to re-magnetize the magnet?


RE: Philco Shadow Graph Rebuilt With Arduino - Arran - 09-28-2018

A Galvanometer, yes, that's the word, I must have been a bit off when I typed that. But still, the shadow meter movement should react much like a magic eye tube if it's working properly, charging up the magnet is a good idea.
Regards
Arran