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B Eliminator by France Engineering Cleveland - circuit needed - Croydonradio - 07-26-2023

Hello,
I have a B eliminator power supply made by France Engineering Cleveland, Ohio.  Would like to restore the wet capacitor, which appears to be multi-sectional.  Anyone heard of this company? Would like to obtain a circuit re: the value of those individual capacitors. Found a reference re: battery chargers made by this company but nothing related to power supplies.


RE: B Eliminator by France Engineering Cleveland - circuit needed - Chas - 07-26-2023

The cap is Mershon, generally 8mf but may have a section in some radios up to 18mf. I replace the entire cap with a vegetable can (so I have a platform for a terminals strip). One could install insulated feed through into the can and mount caps inside. In view that modern caps only have 5 yr life easy access for replacement is desirable.

Gutting the Mershon is a fool's folly as well as messy and serves no purpose other than to brag "yes I can, can" Icon_smile)

If the chokes can be measured and are around 30hy, 2-4mf is fine. At that value metalized will be O.K. and have an unlimited life. In the 20's, accomplishing 4 mf in a paper cap was done with multiple .5 units

Mounting a perfboard or a double terminal strips with brackets will make for a neat repair. Arranging the cylindrical metallized in even, "cord-wood" rows..

As always, when suggesting:

YMMV...

Chas


RE: B Eliminator by France Engineering Cleveland - circuit needed - David - 07-26-2023

Some info that might help. David  https://philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=19316&pid=148588#pid148588  Second Link.   https://www.philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=1372


RE: B Eliminator by France Engineering Cleveland - circuit needed - David - 07-28-2023

Did a search using France manufacturing corporation found Radio-Engineering-1926-12 as a PDF which is to big to post has lots of info on battery eliminators.


RE: B Eliminator by France Engineering Cleveland - circuit needed - Croydonradio - 07-29-2023

Thank you David. I too have been checking in radio literature and looking at https://worldradiohistory.com in particular.

what i'm looking for now is anything on model M814 condensers by Mershon. I think it might mean 8 mfd total (2 mfd on each anode).

Thanks again.


RE: B Eliminator by France Engineering Cleveland - circuit needed - David - 07-31-2023

Some more links.  https://philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=15111    another   https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/amrad_mershon_condenser.html


RE: B Eliminator by France Engineering Cleveland - circuit needed - David - 07-31-2023

A PDF  
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another link https://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_hersteller_detail.cfm?company_id=12027