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Fogged clear - Eric Adams - 06-29-2014

Here's a new problem that I've come across now that the weather is warm enough to spray. I'm using Mohawk Ultra Flo Clear Lacquer and obviously the humidity is too high because I'm getting some large fogged up spots.
Does anyone know what humidity is best for spraying clear? Right now at 9:15pm it's at 80%!
Thanks,


RE: Fogged clear - Steve Davis - 06-29-2014

70% is about the absolute maximum. Some brands are a little more tolerant than others.

Steve


RE: Fogged clear - Ron Ramirez - 06-30-2014

Eric, get some Mohawk No Blush Plus. Just a small spray will eliminate the fog. One can will last a loooonnnnggg time. Icon_thumbup


RE: Fogged clear - Eric Adams - 06-30-2014

Thanks, Ron. I just put an order in to AES for 2 cans. Icon_clap


RE: Fogged clear - morzh - 06-30-2014

So you apply it after you spray clear, or before, or when you get fog to eliminate it? How's it work?


RE: Fogged clear - Ron Ramirez - 06-30-2014

If you spray lacquer (whether it is toner or clear) and it comes out with a milky appearance, a quick spray of No Blush Plus will make the milkiness (blushing or fog) instantly disappear.

It doesn't take much, which is why one can will last a long time unless you are spraying lots of cabinets every day in high humidity.

And No Blush Plus is clear, so it can be used to correct blushing (fogging) on toner or clear.


RE: Fogged clear - morzh - 06-30-2014

Which tells me that the milkiness then is purely surface phenomenon, the top surface forming into something not as smooth as it is supposed to be and the No Blush makes these wrinkles disappear. Otherwise it wouldn't help, were it structural and not surface.

Good to know.


RE: Fogged clear - Ron Ramirez - 06-30-2014

Steve Davis Wrote:Some brands are a little more tolerant than others.

Great point, Steve. Deft lacquer spray was very tolerant of high humidity.

Notice I said was, past tense. I went to Lowe's recently to stock up on Deft only to find that they no longer carry it. I went to the Deft website and it appears they no longer make it in spray cans. Icon_evil Icon_evil Icon_evil Icon_thumbdown

I really want to say something political...I really want to say something political... Icon_evil

But I think you can read between the lines here.


RE: Fogged clear - Eric Adams - 06-30-2014

Be careful Ron, I hear these new Super Moderators are pretty tough!Icon_wave


RE: Fogged clear - bfrohwein - 06-30-2014

wow.. I usually use the ultraflo when it's more humid to avoid blushing. how humid was it? Mohawk recommends not to go above 65% or below 65 degrees. however, Bob Anderson did a video on one of his tombstones. seemed that around 55-60 the lacquer stayed fluid just a little longer and flowed out better.

that super blush retarder is wonderful stuff. just the lightest misting is needed. it disappears before your eyes like a TV commercial


RE: Fogged clear - Steve Davis - 06-30-2014

Quote:Notice I said was, past tense. I went to Lowe's recently to stock up on Deft only to find that they no longer carry it. I went to the Deft website and it appears they no longer make it in spray cans. Icon_evil Icon_evil Icon_evil Icon_thumbdown

Our local Lowe's no longer carries Deft at all. As a mater of fact, they no longer carry lacquer of any kind. Menards has Watco brand in quarts, gallons and spray cans. Their price is right too, a gallon is $24.99, which is the lowest I have found. We also have two Walmart stores close by. They both have Minwax lacquer in spray cans.

Steve


RE: Fogged clear - Chuck Schwark - 06-30-2014

The Penguin is watching……

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RE: Fogged clear - Bob Andersen - 06-30-2014

I did a little research and it seems to be a decision by Penguin Paints who bought out Deft in 2013.


RE: Fogged clear - jerryhawthorne - 06-30-2014

We still have Deft at Home Depot and ACE, last time I checked. It is marked now as "brushing lacquer". I asked about that and the salesman indicated that due to VOC problems with reducing it with lacquer thinner they had to label it that way. It works fine reduced and sprayed. I don't use rattle cans and mix my lacquer with dye for toning.
Jerry


RE: Fogged clear - TA Forbes - 07-01-2014

Jeez. I switched to Deft because it covers and finishes acceptably and the physical spray nozzle is superior.