There are two ways that often work to remove old veneer. One is heat as from a heat gun or hair dryer. The other is moisture, ie : lay a damp cloth over the section you wish to remove and let it rest there until the veneer is loosene enough to remove. Often a combination of the two works best. Don't let moisture get into any other glue joints such as between the front panel and arch woods.
Hi Dave, welcome to the Phorum!
I think your assessment is correct, the veneer needs to be removed completely. It is very difficult to veneer a curved surface. If using wood glue, the veneer needs to be clamped, something almost impossible to do with the curve. One option would be to use contact cement. The problem would be trying to get the veneer all the way into the groove in the front panel before it sticks to the wood. Another way is to use wood glue and activate it with a hot iron. The best solution would be to replace the wrap-around entirely. If you want to go that route, I can help. I will be sending a PM.
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03-10-2017, 09:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-10-2017, 09:41 PM by Radioroslyn.)
Hi Neighbor & welcome,
If your not in much of a hurry you could wait and see what Buzz does with his. Yours is a bit worst but his has a lot of buckling too. 1935 Philco Model 89 Restore Part 2 - YouTube
I think re veneering it is the way to go as others have mentioned or sometimes these cabinets pop up on epay for a good price in decent condition. I got it's cousin around here somewhere the 19LZX (19 is an 89 w/a shadowmeter)
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I think that the veneer over the arch is like that on a model 81, it looks like some sort of tight grained, blond, hardwood like maple, poplar, or beech. Knowing Philco that's probably what they used since they intended to slap shaded lacquer over top of it, the fact that it's also a thick veneer would also indicate this. The model 89 was a step up from a model 60, which was a step up from a model 80/81, so they used the fancy veneer on the front panel and used the cheap stuff over the arch, whereas the 80/81s used cheap veneer on everything.
It would not surprise me if Philco resorted to doing what Ford supposedly did with the model Ts, in re-using material from packing crates in their cabinets, though probably not for the curved parts. It would be nice if that actually was rotary cut Douglas fir, fir turns from a sort of light orange coulor to a burgundy coulor with age if it isn't covered up with paint or what not. Tulip poplar was a popular choice in cheap cabinets, and so was ash, maple, and probably birch and beach too, I know that they liked using poplar for moldings since it has few defects and machines well.
Well, after weighing my options and getting input from the forum I decided to order a new arch from Steve. I really wanted to keep as much of the old cabinet as possible but I don't have the tools (or the skills) to rebuild the arch properly. I was able to remove the front panel but the veneer under the trim is a little beat up. I think the trim will cover most of this but I have some lifted veneer that I'm thinking needs to be glued down before I remove the lacquer. Any suggestions on what glue and method is best for addressing these two spots?
Dave, try putting a few drops of wood glue on a business card and slip it under the loose veneer and work it around a little. Use C-clamps and wood blocks on the front and back to clamp. Laminated counter top material makes good clamping blocks. The laminate will not become stuck to your veneer or you can use wax paper under your blocks.
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