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Philco radio battery boxes - OldRestorer - 11-02-2015

This is Sams fault, I have been wanting to make battery boxes for a few radios and his collecting just gave me the drive to try it.

  So, Is the battery maker guy still around or does anyone have the file for the layout of the philco battery boxes?
I have found most all other radio boxes but not Philco.....

Me!


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - sam - 11-02-2015

What my fault Icon_eek 

Since when did you collect portables 
Bill is on other site but does not do them any more
I will look see what I have 
Been looking for all battery  grafix  ya wrong spelling
But I any one has them I would be great full 
Sam


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - jerryhawthorne - 11-02-2015

Kirk (AKA ME) his is a picture of a couple radio batteries I have made.  Not perfect but you just plug them into the wall and they will run for ever!  Line switch on the A/C line.  Aluminium chassis with the power supply inside.
Jerry

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RE: Philco radio battery boxes - Radioroslyn - 11-02-2015

Methinks you are thinking of Batterymaker (Bill) I don't think he's been making batteries for a while now. There are some resources on the net like scans of battery packages and such. With some resizing you can get just about any radio battery set up you like. I talked with Bill years ago about building a battery for my Philco 37-33 pharm set. It's a big battery but I never pulled the trigger on it. He did have the art work for it.

Terry


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - sam - 11-02-2015

Nice Jerry 
Can we see inside and what you used to make it 
Sam


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - codefox1 - 11-02-2015

Dunno what the gurus did, but a filament transformer and a small step up transformer and a small fistful of modern capacitors, silicon diodes and fusisters/fuses should do


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - jerryhawthorne - 11-03-2015

Sam, here is a picture of what I made for the power supply. It is from a common issue schematic. The power transformer has a split primary, two 125 V inputs and you use one for producing the 90V. As I recall (hard for me) there are two 6V secondary windings, only one used to provide a regulated 1.5V for the filaments. I hope this helps.
Jerry PS: sorry for the cruddy picture quality.

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RE: Philco radio battery boxes - Arran - 11-03-2015

(11-02-2015, 07:35 PM)OldRestorer Wrote:  This is Sams fault, I have been wanting to make battery boxes for a few radios and his collecting just gave me the drive to try it.

  So, Is the battery maker guy still around or does anyone have the file for the layout of the philco battery boxes?
I have found most all other radio boxes but not Philco.....

Me!

Kirk;
  As far as I know the Batterymaker, Bill Morris, doesn't make reproduction batteries anymore, not because he doesn't want to but because he no longer has the time. He does have the graphics however, and will give you the plans on how to make your own apparently. I would try contacting him and ask him about it, he still posts videos on You Tube from time to time, including some how tos for making batteries.
Regards
Arran


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - Arran - 11-03-2015

(11-03-2015, 01:36 AM)jerryhawthorne Wrote:  Sam, here is a picture of what I made for the power supply.  It is from a common issue schematic.  The power transformer has a split primary, two 125 V inputs and you use one for producing the 90V.  As I recall (hard for me) there are two 6V secondary windings, only one used to provide a regulated 1.5V for the filaments.  I hope this helps.
Jerry  PS: sorry for the cruddy picture quality.

[Image: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/JerryHawthorne/Image006.jpg]

Jerry;
  That's the more formal way of building a battery eliminator, what we used to do was look for an old style isolation transformer from a razor outlet for the B+ side, and a 6.3 volt transformer either a filament type or one from a suitable sized wall wart, and use that as the base. Sometimes if you got lucky you could find a razor transformer with enough of a gap between the windings and the iron to wind a home brew filament winding.
Another trick is to use two 6.3 volt filament transformers, secondary to secondary, and take the B+ voltage off the primary of the second transformer and steal the 6.3 volts from between the two secondaries. If you are good at collecting and parting out junk electronics the possibilities are just about endless for what you could use to build power supplies.
Regards
Arran


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - jerryhawthorne - 11-03-2015

Good to know Arran.  I'm not that creative, sorry.  The total component parts were probably less than $20 from Mouser.  The most expensive parts were the chassis box and the perf board!  The fun of laying it out was priceless, particularly when it worked.
Best,  Jerry


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - Arran - 11-03-2015

(11-03-2015, 02:08 AM)jerryhawthorne Wrote:  Good to know Arran.  I'm not that creative, sorry.  The total component parts were probably less than $20 from Mouser.  The most expensive parts were the chassis box and the perf board!  The fun of laying it was priceless, particularly when it worked.
Best,  Jerry

Jerry,
  That's not too bad for all new parts, if that included the transformer, it's usually the "iron" that's the most expensive part, hence why we used to scrounge those, pots, and things to use for project boxes.
Regards
Arran


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - jerryhawthorne - 11-03-2015

Yes Arran, back wow, 10 years ago, that transformer was maybe 8 bucks, the VR was a few, the heat sink for it a couple and the diodes were cheap. I had the two e-caps as I recall. Today, no doubt a little more.
I'm listening to the radio it is powering now and still running sweet. Not much to go wrong on the PS.
Best, Jerry


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - OldRestorer - 11-03-2015

That is amazing Jerry!

I only need the Grafix Icon_mrgreen for the Philco batteries so I can make them myself. I dont collect portables much Sam. I have a few that I would like boxes for. I am emailing you all the box graphics I have.

Me


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - sam - 11-03-2015

kirk
 I will send you what I have
if you just want philco I don`t have them
I tried batterymaker  (bill)  before he does not have them either
like arran said he`s busy with family life but he will help with grafix
sam


RE: Philco radio battery boxes - OldRestorer - 11-03-2015

Graphics are all I want. He should still have the layout or the file that he made. I would have kept if if I had done all that work making it.

Me