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What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Art Hoch - 03-16-2013
I've related how I acquired my 16B chassis and speaker and then got the cabinet later.
I was going through some old pictures and found the 2 that show how it was mounted. The pictures attached show it mounted on the back of a wainscoating door----how it looked on the front side and the back side----and then the completed radio with the correct rough cabinet and then after it was refinished. Luckily a radio club member had the cabinet I needed
Lucky to find both.
Art
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Arran - 03-16-2013
I remember that a friend of mine found a 1935 vintage Sparton chassis that was apparently mounted in a wall in a similar fashion, complete with it's VG-1 Visoglow tube. Someone on here found a brand Z shutterdial chassis where someone had done that. It must have been a fashion to install radios behind wall panels at one time, on occasion you see it in old movies as well.
Now what I could use is a cabinet for a 116 chassis, I have one that came out of a console that a guy got me to fix and then abandoned it here. Unfortunately the console did not have it's original 10'' speaker nor it's acoustical clarifiers. It came with two 8'' Magnavox speakers mounted to a board, and the plug for them didn't even match up with the one in the chassis. In any event I never did get that chassis working properly, I was testing it with an H series speaker out of a Philco 96, I may get back to it some day.
Regards
Arran
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Art Hoch - 03-16-2013
I think saving floor space might have been a factor. Obviously consoles and the largest table-model radio Philco ever made (a 16B) take up LOTS of space.
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - exray - 03-17-2013
Good job, Art
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - TA Forbes - 03-17-2013
Love it when a plan comes together !!
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Gene Pederson - 03-17-2013
Wow! What a transformation!! Nice work!
Gene
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Ron Ramirez - 03-17-2013
Nice save, Art. We were looking at a house recently that has that same type of paneling in one room - no radios built into the wall, though.
Now I know why your 16B has 1938 pattern V cloth. It would appear to me that the radio was probably put into the wall no earlier than mid to late 1937, as that pattern of cloth was not offered by Philco until the 1938 model year (which came out in June 1937).
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Art Hoch - 03-17-2013
@Ron,
I realize it's different but the cloth in this ad is a chevron closely related to mine, right?
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Art Hoch - 03-17-2013
Whooops, what happened to my attachment in my last post?
Guess it must have been too large. Wondering if the chevron cloth in this ad was original stuff.
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Ron Ramirez - 03-17-2013
I have no idea. Please edit your last post and try again.
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - CrumblingWires - 03-23-2013
Art,
Did you notice the cabinet in the ad & your cabinet is different.
You have the later style. Both cabinets took the smaller chevron patterns. The pattern you have in your later style tombstone was used in '36-'38 consoles, I'm guessing.
I have the earlier cabinet pictured in the ad, which also has the much smaller chevron pattern.
I imagine Kenny will be repopping both of these patterns soon.
Still a Great Save on Two Orphans. I'm a real sucker for orphans, trying to make them whole again. doing it with a 650B at present.
Lloyd
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RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - wa2ise - 03-23-2013
About 40 years ago I found at the curb a SW and AM radio chassis that was installed in a rather crudely built homebrew floor standing cabinet. Looking similar to the above. I don't remember any details like the brand or approx number of tubes in it, I do remember listening to Radio South Africa and such, using a 50 foot antenna. It got tossed long ago ("Get this POS outta here")...
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Ron Ramirez - 03-23-2013
Here is the type of chevron or "V" cloth used in 1935-37 Philcos, including the 16B tombstone:
[Image: http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k420/mrphilco/Phorum%20Stuff/num3_zps818f6f47.jpg]
And this is the 1938 style chevron or "V" cloth used in the 38-1, 38-116, and a few others:
[Image: http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k420/mrphilco/Phorum%20Stuff/num41_zps4f016898.jpg]
The second type is the type of pattern you have in your 16B, Art. It originally had the first type. But all of this is academic now since neither pattern is being reproduced anymore.
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - Art Hoch - 03-23-2013
@Ron,
Alas, at this point I"d take either one for the 38-1 I just acquired.
@Lloyd,
I just used the cloth that was with the 16B when I found it on the door. I didn't have any other and didn't know when a certain pattern was used on what models.
RE: What my 16B looked like when I got it and then.... - CrumblingWires - 03-24-2013
Ron,
Yes Sir, I read your last post:
"I have no idea. Please edit your last post and try again."
Heck, I even read your last post before that one, but....it didn't answer Art's question about the small chevron pattern in the advertisement.Art wanted to know about the grille cloth that was pictured in the ad.
"Wondering if the chevron cloth in this ad was original stuff."
I realize Art knew the pattern in his wasn't correct. Art's pattern was used in '38 as in my 38-4. I stated that I was guessing about the years that had that particular pattern, too lazy I guess to get up & look what my 37-116 & my 38-690 had.
Human nature, if someone is in a quandary about what particular pattern they need, they must understand the differences between the two cabinets. That's why Art asked about the smaller pattern(smallest) in the advertisement.
I brought up the cabinet differences because about every 6 months on Both Phorums, people discover this difference. Thought it was a good time to point it out while viewers had the opportunity to see both photos in the same topic that Art posted.
The first pic Ron's shows is the pattern in my 37-116. Maybe Ron can post a pic of the Small pattern that is in these early version styles that is pictured in the ad. I was just collaborating that the ad's pattern was correct to answer Art's question. Art was asking if it was a close facsimile... 1&1/2"-----3/16" spacing & repeat, between the two *chevrons* patterns isn't that close.
I do know that the cloth in Art's cabinet is for a console. Maybe someone here that has the later version of this cabinet style can post a pic with the correct grille cloth.
Art,
Did you notice the difference in the "front roof line" between the two cabinets? With all the Love & Effort you put in these Two Orphans let's hope Mr. Richmond will "hook(all of Us)up"
Kenny has a TOP 10 sales list. After a few "Z" patterns are out, I'm sure the Philco *Chevrons* will be coming.
Now to figure out where that "Quote" button is,
Lloyd
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