Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - Printable Version
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RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - morzh - 10-03-2019
I think it is a cathode follower to the voltage created by the 620k/510k resistive divider of the plate voltage to be used as the SG voltage for 6550. Supposedly the follower will stabilize it better due to low output impedance compared to the divider itself.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - rfeenstra - 10-03-2019
So the benefit in actual operation would be what, better tube protection? Less distortion in overload condition? Less distortion overall?
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - morzh - 10-03-2019
I doubt it. The SG voltage would be more stable, so possibly less unwanted modulation due to various effects from SG to the output.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - rfeenstra - 10-03-2019
I remember Dave Gillespie on the AK forum talking about an active SG supply for Fisher amps allowing full output with the idle current being quite a bit lower than normal. Perhaps this circuit does something similar.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - mattdude0 - 10-23-2019
Why not use 1n4007 diodes and a dropping resistor. You will eliminate the filament current on each tube replaced. I have done this to some old Dynaco tube amps. I copied my Marantz 8B, it uses silicon diodes. Marantz knew the advantages.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - rfeenstra - 10-24-2019
I've done that as well on a couple of tube amps in old organs.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - rfeenstra - 11-02-2019
I've rebuilt the amp replacing all electrolytics and tubular caps. I found a couple of 5Z4's in my stash that I didn't know I had, then proceeded to track down a bunch of intermittent issues. Most of the grounding tabs are on the tube sockets that are riveted to the chassis. The top of the chassis was painted before the tube sockets were riveted in. I had a lot of loose rivets! I wound up soldering all of the tube sockets to the chassis to eliminate the problem. Except for a couple of microphonic tubes , it seems to work good.
The amp has found its home on the top of an old Allen organ speaker in my 13 year old grandson's bedroom. He's learning to play bass guitar and the amp and speaker work quite nicely for that (of course, none of the effects). He's really geeked to have a tube amp for his bass and the 15" driver in the speaker really shakes the room! He's going to have to keep the volume down.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - Eliot Ness - 11-03-2019
The amp came out looking beautiful and looks great sitting on the Allen speaker. Your grandson will have a ball learning to play bass through that amp & speaker.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - EdHolland - 11-07-2019
Nice amp, and I bet that is a fun bass rig. My son and I have been learning. The little 10" solid state practice amp is OK, but this makes me think something else is needed....
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - rfeenstra - 11-07-2019
My grandson loves it! At 50 watts output and an efficient speaker, it shakes things up.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - captainclock1988 - 12-26-2019
I was given Newcomb's bigger version of this Amplifier which was a Newcomb "Pathfinder" Model E-75 Amplifier that was good for 75 Watts.
The tube line-up of that amplifier was 2 7027-A (KT-88), a 6V6, a 6C4, and 2 12AX7As (All RCA Branded Tubes), and according to the service manual for the Newcomb "Pathfinder" Model E-75 Amplifier, the 6V6 tube in this circuit (and yours as well) was used as a regulator tube (as opposed to using an old school 01A Gas Regulator Tube), so yes in your amplifier the 6V6 tube is a regulator tube.
Hope this helps.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - rfeenstra - 12-26-2019
Thank you! that's what I suspected.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - aumamps@gmail.com - 06-07-2020
Do you have a full version of these schematics you'd be willing to share?
I have a 4*6l6 500 and am curious if my transformer specs match up with the schematic. I'm also curious what this large inductor is inside the amp. I don't even see it on your schematic and I can't get a reading on it.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - rfeenstra - 06-08-2020
I do not have the factory schematic for this amp, just a similar one. Perhaps captainclock1988 has a complete schematic for the Newcomb E-75. My amp has an inductor under the chassis that is part of the HV filtering for the pre amp/driver section of the amp. The only schematic I have is one I hand drew. I have no specs on the choke. Here is a photo of my hand drawn schematic. The choke is found on the lower edge near the 5Z4's.
RE: Maas-Rowe Carillon Amplifier - Radioroslyn - 06-08-2020
If you do some rough calculations your looking at 45 ma and the inductance that = 120cy with a .05 mfd cap in parallel with it.
GL