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RE: 116B dial drive disassembly surprise - Radioroslyn - 01-20-2023
Yup that's the late model or cost reduction model. Pretty much the only differences are the spkr & cabinet. It was the last of the 16/116 tabletop set which started in '33. In 37 and 38 the 116 continued as high fidelity consoles. The 37-116X code 121 sported manual tuning and a shadowgraph. They didn't sale as well as the code 122 which has "telladial" (preset) tuning. 1939 the 116 usher in the mystery tuning. The receiver circuit was down sized and is a mere shadow of it's predecessors. It does have a high tube count but it's do to the control circuits for the mystery tuning. After '39 no more 116.
In 1937 there was a set that replaced the 116B. The 37-670B https://philcoradio.com/gallery2/1937a/#Model_37-670B And continued thru '38.
Here's a link to all of the 16/116B's http://www.tuberadioland.com/philco16B-tombstone_main.html Pretty sure you can click on the pics at the bottom to read abt them.
RE: 116B dial drive disassembly surprise - radiorich - 01-21-2023
Hello mbhdesign,
As terry said you really do have your work cut out for you on this project also to bad that dial was not damaged like that .
I have a Zenith model 715 which had a nest under the chassis when I first got the set now that set will take some real will power !
you, are lucky that Philco looks in good shape under neath .
Sincerely Richard
RE: 116B dial drive disassembly surprise - Radioroslyn - 01-21-2023
You can get a dial here I think https://www.radiodaze.com/philco-116-116x-27-5107/ But it may take awhile...
RE: 116B dial drive disassembly surprise - mbhdesign - 01-21-2023
Many thanks, Richard! I’m in for a treat for sure!
Fortunately, I was able to source a replacement dial a few months ago when I acquired the set.
Unfortunately, there’s a missing part of the band selection / dial drive system - I think it’s the dial belt tensioner.
I posted a Want Ad with a few pics to show what’s missing. https://philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=24046&pid=191503#pid191503
Without this part, there’s nothing for the dial drive belt to attach to.
RE: 116B dial drive disassembly surprise - radiorich - 01-21-2023
Hello mbhdesign,
One thing I did not is your band switch control looked shorter in that photo .
Far as the dial belt tensioner goes if worst comes to worst you could fabricate something this where a 3-d printer might come in handy .
Sincerely Richard
462ron - 462ron - 01-21-2023
Hi mbhdesign, about 2 years ago I came across a 16B, the predecessor of your 116 at a local auction house. I knew it was one of Philco’s best at the time and ran over to it. Once I got to looking at it my enthusiasm waned. In addition to the cabinet falling apart, the stench emanating from it and the obvious rodent damage was a killer. I walked away! It was the only time I ever remember seeing one in the raw.
Ron
RE: 116B dial drive disassembly surprise - mbhdesign - 01-21-2023
Ugh. I don’t blame you.
Here’s a few pics of my 116B cabinet. Worked on worse!