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RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Bob Andersen - 04-22-2013

The general recommendation seems to be lacquer will work OK if you allow the BLO to fully dry out for a week or so. I plan on sealing it with some shellac first too.


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Bob Andersen - 05-03-2013

The BLO and pumice turned out very gritty. Trying to sand it smooth quickly killed the sandpaper, Also, when I put a little test clear lacquer over it, the pumice was still visible as white crystals like salt. Perhaps if I had used only the finest grade pumice it would have gone better ?
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So I just stripped it off with some Zinsser green gell stuff and used Constantine's walnut paste filler.
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The temperature went from 85F to 45F in only 24 hours so I'll just have to wait a bit longer before proceeding.


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Arran - 05-04-2013

I'm sorry to hear that this didn't work out, I was hoping that it would as I planning to try it myself. Maybe, as you say, you need to use a finer grade of pumice.
Regards
Arran


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Bob Andersen - 05-08-2013

I used some shellac to seal the cabinet and it's just about ready for some toner Icon_smile
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RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Bob Andersen - 05-09-2013

I got a tip that Krylon fast drying spray paint was compatible with lacquer so I did a little test on a scrap of poplar. First shellac sealer, black gloss Krylon and, finally, Watco gloss lacquer. It came out just fine - no bad reactions at all Icon_smile

That saves me from have to mail order any black lacquer Icon_thumbup
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RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Arran - 05-09-2013

After it dries give it a scratch test, if the clear coat doesn't scratch off the top of the black paint it's fine. I made a mistake once of spraying Krylon Clear over top of Mohawk toner and it wouldn't bond, mind you it was pretty obvious that something wasn't right as it dried. However I never had a problem with the Krylon fast dry spray paint and lacquer.
Regards
Arran


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Bob Andersen - 05-17-2013

The clear coat is just fine Icon_smile I just finished up with the brown mahogany toner and it's just a bit more red than I'd like. Perhaps perfect brown would have been a better choice ? Regardless, I'll press forward and start masking it off for the black trim. I expect that's going to take quite a while!

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RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Arran - 05-17-2013

It did come out rather red didn't it, though I won't say it looks wrong, it looks like the original finish on Joe's set may have been closer to a medium walnut.
Regards
Arran


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Bob Andersen - 05-17-2013

Yeah, that's a shame because I have a can of medium walnut handy. I suppose I could put a dusting of it over the cabinet, but I'm afraid of making it too dark. So I'll just continue on. After all, I can always strip and refinish it in the future.


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Arran - 05-18-2013

I wonder if you could buff some of the brown mahogany off with 0000 steel wool or wet sand it so it doesn't look quite as red?
Regards
Arran


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Ron Ramirez - 05-18-2013

Good to know about the Krylon paint and clear lacquer. I am hoping to get a 41-KR refinished this summer. It will have to be painted white, then a silver PHILCO decal added, followed up with clearcoat for protection of the decal.


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Bob Andersen - 05-20-2013

It's was quite easy to wipe off the toner with a rag and some lacquer thinner without removing the grain filler. I'll try again with some medium brown walnut tomorrow weather permitting.
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RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Arran - 05-20-2013

Sometimes it's just better to start again before you get too far, it isn't a large cabinet so not to hard to take a step backward. It looked nice with the red tone to it but if it wasn't quite right it would continue to bug you every time you walked by.
Regards
Arran


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Bob Andersen - 05-21-2013

Yes, I knew it would drive me nuts and now was the time to change. This is also another good reason to use toner instead of stain. It's far more difficult to redo stain.


RE: Philco 60MB cabinet restoration - Bob Andersen - 05-21-2013

Here it is with medium brown. I can live with that Icon_smile
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