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RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - Arran - 02-12-2021

Mike;
 The changer is definitely a replacement, the originals were 78 rpm only, and had a slicer on the corner like many 78 changers did. I think the unit in there is an older V.M unit, can't tell you the model. What does the printing say on the underside?
Regards
Arran

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - Ron Ramirez - 02-12-2021

+1 what Arran said.

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - Ed Locker - 02-12-2021

That changer was built by VM on the 46th week of 1958.

It's model number ( 1210B151 ) indicates it's from VM's 1200 series.

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - morzh - 02-12-2021

Thanks Arrsna, Ron, Ed - that is a big help.

I was wondering why it is "hotwired". The capacitor in series......I wonder why. The wire is from the chassis so short of the radio's transformer leakage and someone getting zapped.....or the RF filter C75 leakage, they decided to remove the wire and replace it with a cap; 0.01uF will limit the current to a safe, if still appreciable, sensation. I think I will start with direct connection as I have replaced C75 with two Y-rated caps as I always do.

So I need to find the service info on that VM record.
The rubber wheel idler feels hard. It is smooth and not chipped around, but no longer feels rubbery.

This radio had several problems that would stop it fro working so no wonder people gave up on it. Two tubes with shorts, one resistor which is a load, fully open......

The phono input works - when touched it produces hum.
Again, it seems hand-wired, a pluggable old stype RCA jack.

So the reason the turntable is not moving out is, it probably did not fit the old shelf so the shelf was either replaced, or...
I wonder why they decided to immobilize it.

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - morzh - 02-12-2021

Took off the back bearing holder of the motor, lubed it, and put some lube in the front holder. Did not take it off - this requires taking the motor off and it is a bit cumbersome.
The motor runs fine; a bit of a hum does not seem to be loud.
Took of the idler. It is a double idler; the wider bottom one goes to contact the motor stepped shaft, and the narrow top one runs against the platter. The top is still rubbery but the bottom is hard.
Need to find a new one or try to ask Gary if he restores them. After all it is a V-M and this is what he does.

Also Ed Morris seems to like restoring these.

   

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - morzh - 02-13-2021

Seems like Gary has everything I need.
The idler, the motor mounting grommets, the needles.
I probably will buy the service/lube guide too.

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - morzh - 03-06-2021

The diagnostics stand Icon_smile

   

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - Radioroslyn - 03-06-2021

Clever!!

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - Eliot Ness - 03-08-2021

Yes, very clever Icon_thumbup

Lay a piece of mirrored tile on the bottom and you might not have to stoop down as much to view the operation.

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - morzh - 03-08-2021

Johm, I would but ain't got no mirrors at home to spare. Icon_smile

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - 462ron - 03-09-2021

    Hey Mike, My dad had a TV/Radio repair business in the 50s early 60s and this was a changer cradle he had. It is fully adjustable for width and can hold a record changer at different angles. The name on the side is GC, General Cement! Might be a good tool for anyone who does a lot of service on record players if one could be located, maybe eBay!

Ron

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - Paul Philco322 - 03-09-2021

In High School metal shop that would have been a good project!

Paul

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - morzh - 03-09-2021

Ron

Great tool, yes.

I am not sure I understand how the TT is secured to it...or maybe I do, so the left side wing nut clamps the left lip of TT chassis between the two pieces and the right does the same to the right lip. Got it.

Yeah......nice stand.

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - 462ron - 03-09-2021

Yeah you get the idea. The clamps are all just hanging loose in that picture but you can see there are green felt pads on each end that you orient them into the right position and tighten the wing nuts with the felt part on the top surface of the changer to protect from maring it!

Ron

RE: PHILCO 46-1213 - Eliot Ness - 03-09-2021

Hey Ron, you got all kinds of goodies from your dad! First the Trol Master and now this.... I've had a search going on eBay for a Trol Master ever since mike found his, but so far no hits.

Sorry for the interruption, we now return to our regularly scheduled topic.....