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Philco Model 222 - diamondsouled - 01-14-2017

    Picked up a Model 222 the other day. The cabinet is in great shape! Haven't been able to track down a schematic yet. Any leads?
Thanks
Lar

RE: Philco Model 222 - Nathan Slingerland - 01-14-2017

That sure looks like a Philco 48-150:

http://www.philcoradio.com/gallery/1948a.htm#c

Is it a battery set?

Can you post a photo of the back of the radio - any markings / labels / badges on the chassis?

RE: Philco Model 222 - Ron Ramirez - 01-14-2017

It is probably a Canadian Philco, especially since the OP is in Canada.

From 1939 on, Philco Canada's model numbering scheme became greatly different from USA Philco model numbers, even for radios that were obviously the same as their USA counterparts.

RE: Philco Model 222 - diamondsouled - 01-14-2017

    Yep Canadian model.

1LG5
3LF4
1LA6
1LN5
1LH4

RE: Philco Model 222 - klondike98 - 01-14-2017

It seems to have the same tube line up as the US model 48-150. The schematic for that can be found at:
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/pagesbymodel/626/M0013626.pdf

Just Radios also has a collection of Candian schematics so if the 48-150 does not look correct when you start working on it try them at: http://www.justradios.com/schematics.html

RE: Philco Model 222 - OldRestorer - 01-14-2017

Finish is stripped but that can be redone....
Looks good but not original...

I have not seen this model until now

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RE: Philco Model 222 - Radioroslyn - 01-14-2017

Is powered by batteries only. Two or three D cell in parallel and ten 9v batteries in series.

RE: Philco Model 222 - diamondsouled - 01-14-2017

(01-14-2017, 08:13 PM)OldRestorer Wrote:  Finish is stripped but that can be redone....
Looks good but not original...

I have not seen this model until now

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Just a bad picture actually, was using my 55 - 200 zoom lens. Made it look stripped just overexposed.

RE: Philco Model 222 - diamondsouled - 01-14-2017

(01-14-2017, 06:14 PM)klondike98 Wrote:  It seems to have the same tube line up as the US model 48-150.  The schematic for that can be found at:
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/pagesbymodel/626/M0013626.pdf

Just Radios also has a collection of Candian schematics so if the 48-150 does not look correct when you start working on it try them at:  http://www.justradios.com/schematics.html

Thanks Bob! Will take a look at the schematic tomorrow.

RE: Philco Model 222 - OldRestorer - 01-15-2017

I am not sure but the darker square around the Philco logo shows the original finish.
I have seen it many times where they strip the radio but want to keep the original Philco decal so they strip around it..

I don't think a picture can make it look like that...
Philco rarely lacquered bare wood. Toner was used 99% of the time...

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RE: Philco Model 222 - klondike98 - 01-15-2017

I agree with kirk (oldrestorer), its been stripped around that decal and refinished in some way. If you like it the way it looks, then no worries. Reproduction decals are now available should you decide to redo it at some point in the future.

RE: Philco Model 222 - diamondsouled - 01-15-2017

(01-15-2017, 11:50 AM)OldRestorer Wrote:  I am not sure but the darker square around the Philco logo shows the original finish.
I have seen it many times where they strip the radio but want to keep the original Philco decal so they strip around it..

I don't think a picture can make it look like that...
Philco rarely lacquered bare wood. Toner was used 99% of the time...

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Wow. Good eyes!

Whoever did it did a fair job anywho. The logo is a decal I'm guessing?

So a spray toner over a filler sealer? Just wondering, I own a lot of antique furniture and have always wondered about such finishes. I know on one old ash table I had that it had to be planned to remove the filler/sealer or whatever it was. I tried sanding it out and gave up lol! I prefer an oil finish.

RE: Philco Model 222 - klondike98 - 01-15-2017

There are a number of threads in the Cabinet Restoration section about refinishing radios. The short strokes are that after stripping the grainy woods have a sanding sealer applied, followed by a grain filler (some folks do use sanding sealer to fill grains...there are a multitude of techniques people use), followed by a toning lacquer to achieve the correct color, followed by multiple gloss clear lacquer coats with some level of sanding and rub out to achieve the desired gloss level.

RadioDaze has the decals.

RE: Philco Model 222 - diamondsouled - 01-15-2017

    Picked up a Rogers Magestic a while back that had a Perma Power Model A converter with it. Would that work with the Philco 222 as well?

Thanks

Lar

RE: Philco Model 222 - Radioroslyn - 01-15-2017

Yup that should do it.