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Which Mohawk toner - Tone Finish or Ultra Classic? - OZ4 - 05-28-2018
I was hoping you would know how to tell which Mohawk toning spray colors are opaque and which are transparent. I am talking about the spray cans of toner.
Chris
RE: Zenith 12s370 Refinish - Ron Ramirez - 05-28-2018
Chris
If you are using spray cans...
Tone Finish is opaque, Ultra Flo is transparent. I used to use Tone Finish, but I started transitioning to Ultra Flo a couple years ago. It's a slow transition for me as I bought several cans of Medium Walnut Tone Finish - which, fortunately, is closer to being transparent than other Mohawk colors.
RE: Zenith 12s370 Refinish - OZ4 - 05-29-2018
Ron
You mean the Mohawk Ultra Classic Toner line? What are favorite shades of toner to use?
RE: Zenith 12s370 Refinish - Ron Ramirez - 05-29-2018
Yeah, I meant Ultra Classic, not Ultra Flo. Years ago Mohawk had an "Ultra Flo" line and for some strange reason, the name has stuck in my head.
I have yet to try Medium Brown Walnut but I am assuming that is the Ultra Classic version of Medium Walnut. I've used Perfect Brown (a bit darker than Medium Walnut) and Extra Dark Walnut, and have been pleased with both. I now prefer Extra Dark Walnut Ultra Classic to Extra Dark Walnut Tone Finish for the areas needing to be super dark, almost black but not quite.
RE: Zenith 12s370 Refinish - OZ4 - 05-29-2018
Ron
OK
I have been trying to finish two radio cabinets and I ran out of some colors.
Made an order for Mohawk and ended up with opaque toners. Of course I wanted transparent toners Hense the post about toners.
Yes Ive been using some earlier cans of perfect brown that are transparent and not being able to match up different areas of wood.
Perfect brown is a little too red for this Crosley.
Radios: Philco 45 and Crosley 645 6volt unit. I think.
So if medium brown walnut is lighter than perfect brown I will skip the medium brown.
I am looking for one a little darker than perfect brown? same tone.
And one that is not quite so red as perfect brown.
All transparent.
Oh and I am trying out their Heavy bodied sanding sealer to try it as grain filler.
Hope Fred doesn't mind butting in on his post. Maybe I should start one of my own.
Thanks
Chris
RE: Which Mohawk toner - Tone Finish or Ultra Classic? - Ron Ramirez - 05-29-2018
I split this into its own thread.
As I recall there is a "Medium Dark Walnut" but I have yet to try it. It might be good for the triple-toned Philco cathedrals such as the flat-face 44B if Perfect Brown isn't dark enough. You know, something like Medium Brown Walnut, Medium Dark Walnut, Extra Dark Walnut.
RE: Which Mohawk toner - Tone Finish or Ultra Classic? - OZ4 - 05-29-2018
Thanks Ron for the info. I will try and post some pics when I finally get the colors right.
Chris
RE: Which Mohawk toner - Tone Finish or Ultra Classic? - Radioroslyn - 05-29-2018
Hey Chris
I had the same issue w/ the Mohawk walnut toners. I found them to be very red, was somewhat disappointed w/the results.
RE: Which Mohawk toner - Tone Finish or Ultra Classic? - Phlogiston - 05-29-2018
Most people put on too much. Start lightly and never spray directly at the surface.
RE: Which Mohawk toner - Tone Finish or Ultra Classic? - OZ4 - 05-30-2018
Yes it's a steep learning curve.
RE: Which Mohawk toner - Tone Finish or Ultra Classic? - mark123 - 05-31-2018
Hey Phlogiston-
I'm trying to soak in as many finishing tips as I can from this forum, but I'm a little confused by your "never spray directly at the surface" tip. Did you mean to say: spray at a low angle to the surface as opposed to 90 degrees (perpendicular) to the surface? Or am I incorrectly interpreting your comment.
RE: Which Mohawk toner - Tone Finish or Ultra Classic? - Phlogiston - 05-31-2018
You are correct. Let the spray hit the surface at an angle and distance that the spray is more or less dropping onto the surface.
RE: Which Mohawk toner - Tone Finish or Ultra Classic? - mark123 - 06-01-2018
Got it! That's a great tip. I never would have thought to try that.