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Early 16B tombstone - Printable Version

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Early 16B tombstone - Radioroslyn - 05-16-2019

I have a stupid question. Would the June '34 version of the 16B use the larger (it's abt 1" or 1 1/8") of the six sided hex black knob?
https://philcoradio.com/gallery2/1935a/#Model_16B

RE: Early 16B tombstone - Ron Ramirez - 05-16-2019

Do you mean for tuning or for the bandswitch?

The tuning knob is a large hex knob with a setscrew to allow for pulling out the tuning shaft and pushing it in to change tuning speed.

Now, I've seen some of these with a medium hex knob on the bandswitch (same as on the off-on-volume and tone control shafts), but most 16 sets I have seen which use hex knobs have a large hex knob on the bandswitch as well.

RE: Early 16B tombstone - Radioroslyn - 05-16-2019

The tuning knob was what I was questioning.
I didn't realize that it would have a set screw I'll to let Julie know.
Haven't pulled the set apart yet.

Tnx Much!

RE: Early 16B tombstone - Radioroslyn - 06-12-2019

It's down the road a piece but when I refinish the cabinet what color are the pinstripes on the front panel? I think I've seen some that are off white and some that are gold. Cabinet came prestripped so I don't have the original to go by.

Txn!

RE: Early 16B tombstone - Ron Ramirez - 06-12-2019

It should be off-white, sort of like an antique ivory. Gold is incorrect as is yellow.

RE: Early 16B tombstone - morzh - 06-12-2019

I was always wondering what people mean by saying "down the road a piece".
In the song it implies "not far" but the usages I see imply "not too close".

RE: Early 16B tombstone - klondike98 - 06-12-2019

Mike..that's right "down the road a piece" as in "sometime in the future"

RE: Early 16B tombstone - Nathan Slingerland - 06-13-2019

I've found Deco Art brand 'Honey Brown' to be a very good match for the stripes:

https://philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=17107

RE: Early 16B tombstone - morzh - 06-13-2019

I meant this song.
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=down+the+road+a+piece&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

RE: Early 16B tombstone - Radioroslyn - 06-13-2019

Hi Nathan,
Great refinish on both sets! I never noticed the similarities between the 16B tombstone and the butterfly cabinets. I remember thinking that the butterfly was just an odd style.
As for the paint I'll probably mix up a little something. I have some water based acrylics here just didn't know what color I needed to shoot for. Makes sense to to apply it between the toner and final gloss coats. For some reason it doesn't mind the lacquer base paint over it. No blistering or pealing. Used in on the Philcote on my 37-602 and worked out great for touching up the worn and chipped areas.

Tnx for the input!

RE: Early 16B tombstone - Radioroslyn - 08-16-2019

Taking a break from the chassis although it's working well. Still want to play w/band 5 a bit. The speaker is over w/ Rich @ Sound Remedy. In the interim have been doing a little cabinet work. The front burl trim has a couple of deep gouges. Slowly working on that. It a lot better than it was but still I think I can make it better. Glued down some loose veneer so on and so forth... Not there yet and I've seen it posted here on the Phorum but can't find it. I'm thinking that the toner for the dark sections of the cabinet should be extra dark walnut?

Oh on the grille cloth does it use the chevron style? Have seen a bunch of pics but most replacements so I'm not sure what an original looks like.

RE: Early 16B tombstone - NostalgiaRadioTime - 08-17-2019

Enjoying following along with your progress, Terry. You helped me greatly when I was restoring my 16B, and while there are certainly much better examples of cabinet refinishing, this was how I did mine. I think most of the cabinet gets the extra dark walnut, but others I'm sure can offer better advice. For the grille cloth, I'm pretty sure I used this from Radio Daze: http://www.radiodaze.com/grille-cloth-03-item-grc03-18x25/ Good luck!

   

RE: Early 16B tombstone - Radioroslyn - 08-17-2019

>You helped me greatly when I was restoring my 16B
Twas my pleasure sir.

You got the late model 16B. I kinda wish mine was but now I have the 1st and the last of the 16/116 tombstones.
Lookin' good! Did you tone the trim on the front? Maybe a little medium walnut? On the grille cloth there isn't much of a choice to pick from but I wasn't sure if it used the 70/90 style.
After I get the front into sanding sealer the cabinet is going to be put on hold till the top section comes back from being repair. It was split and a broken strip was missing. I think I need to get the top back together before I go further to get the cabinet some structural integrity.

Tnx for the reply!

RE: Early 16B tombstone - NostalgiaRadioTime - 08-17-2019

Thanks, Terry. No, the trim on the front is original finish. I just had to tone the rest of the cabinet because of veneer issues (there was some bad chips missing along the top front edge).

RE: Early 16B tombstone - Radioroslyn - 04-08-2020

So have started back up on the 1st 16B (have 2 now). BIG shout out to TruePhilco  as he was kind enough to repair the broken top panel by cutting off the split end and fashioning a piece with the proper contours to match the original. I had sent it over to Steve Davis but he had a medical emergency and wasn't sure what his outcome was going to be. I've had the  repaired panel for a few months waiting for a little better weather.

I had the cabinet setting on a box which it took a tumble from. This removed the right side panel which was probably a good thing. Came off nice clean w/o breaking the tongue and groove joints. The last couple of days I've been clamping and gluing the side to the front and base board. Today I'm fitting the top panels and making some small adjustment so it all fits well. Nothing like having a nice tight cabinet especially which one w/a heavy chassis.