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Philco 65 Metal Cabinet Purchase...A Beauty Without its F-10 - cknob - 12-12-2021
I couldn't resist this for $20. From 1929, a tabletop metal cabinet Philco 65 unfortunately without the F-10 external speaker. Are those soup cans in there the electrolytics? I haven't had a chance to look too deeply so I don't know how original it is. I probably will wait until I can source the F-10 before I dive into it. I do have an H-2 10" speaker that has the same specs as the F-10 so I can probably get it working and adjusted before I acquire the beautiful little cabinet speaker. Sorry for the poor quality photos.
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RE: Philco 65 Metal Cabinet Purchase...A Beauty Without its F-10 - admin - 12-12-2021
Please feel free to place an ad in the Wanted Ads forum on this website for the F-10 speaker.
RE: Philco 65 Metal Cabinet Purchase...A Beauty Without its F-10 - Ron Ramirez - 12-12-2021
More than you ever wanted to know about the model 65 in a table model cabinet.
https://ronsradios.com/2021/08/02/philco-model-65-repairs-part-1/
https://ronsradios.com/2021/08/04/philco-model-65-repairs-part-2/
https://ronsradios.com/2021/08/06/philco-model-65-repairs-part-3/
https://ronsradios.com/2021/08/11/philco-model-65-repairs-part-4/
https://ronsradios.com/2021/08/13/philco-model-65-repairs-part-5/
https://ronsradios.com/2021/08/18/philco-model-65-repairs-part-6/
https://ronsradios.com/2021/08/20/philco-model-65-repairs-epilog-part-7/
and the F-10 speaker:
https://ronsradios.com/2021/09/13/philco-f-10-speaker-repair-part-1/
https://ronsradios.com/2021/09/15/philco-f-10-speaker-repair-part-2/
https://ronsradios.com/2021/11/05/philco-f-10-speaker-repair-part-3/
https://ronsradios.com/2021/11/08/philco-f-10-speaker-repair-part-4/
I don't know what you mean by "soup cans". The filter capacitors are contained in a large rectangular can, next to the power transformer. This radio does not use electrolytics, and electrolytics should not be used in its restoration. You can read about what I used on my blog.
RE: Philco 65 Metal Cabinet Purchase...A Beauty Without its F-10 - cknob - 12-12-2021
Thank you Ron...yes I removed the bottom and saw the coils in the 3 large cans and I have saved the first installment in the 65 restoration series as a favorite. I'll be referring to it and all of the subsequent parts as I go at this beauty. Since I'm new to the forum, I assume you are Ron of Ron's Radios? If so, the website is fantastic with great documentation of restorations. So the capacitor can in front of the transformer is where 4 capacitors live? It's part 3515 and contains 0.15, 1.0 and 2 2.0 caps? I measured resistance from the 80 tube to ground and got about 180 ohms on both leads (plate and filament?). What else should I do to test the transformer? Again, as in my other threads, forgive my stupid questions and electronic vocabulary as I'm new to the hobby and this forum.
RE: Philco 65 Metal Cabinet Purchase...A Beauty Without its F-10 - Ron Ramirez - 12-12-2021
Yes...I am indeed your charming and delightful Old Uncle Ron.
(Bonus points if you can name the DJ from whom I "stole" that description of myself.)Thank you for the kind words.
Yes, the large can contains the two 2 uF caps, the single 1 uF cap, and a single 0.15 uF capacitor.
As for the transformer. If you are getting approximately 180 ohms between each 80 plate and ground, you're well ahead of the game. Test the other windings for continuity.
You'll notice in my blog posts that I rebuilt my transformer by adding new heat shrink insulation to its wires, especially the three rubber-covered leads which come out from inside the transformer. This is not a job for a novice. If you don't really understand what you are doing or do not feel comfortable doing this, seek help from someone more experienced. You're in the Philly area, lots of radio collectors around there including a few who frequent this Phorum.