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Please ID this chassis..I need a cabinet - Dan Walker - 09-01-2011

Ron did identify this chassis for me but I lost the information,,so if anyone knows what model it is and what cabinet I will need, let me know...... thanks Dan
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Re: Please ID this chassis..I need a cabinet - Ron Ramirez - 09-01-2011

Hi Dan

That's a Philco model 19 chassis. Obviously, since the speaker is a 10-1/2 incher, it came from a console originally.

I'm guessing it is a USA model 19, and not a Canadian 319. The Canadian 319 would have a metal tag riveted on the back which would be stamped with the "chassis type" (model number). Plus, the 319 would be more likely to have a thicker, 25 cycle power transformer. The USA Philco sets of this time period had a gold sticker on the back of the chassis that often comes off over time.

You can see the various cabinets Model 19 was offered in (in the USA, that is) here:
http://www.philcoradio.com/tech/19evol.htm

Steve Davis can make a reproduction cathedral cabinet for you, but you'll have to find an 8 inch speaker to go in it:
http://www.philcoradio.com/davis.htm

Re: Please ID this chassis..I need a cabinet - TA Forbes - 09-01-2011

I was never a big fan of the Philco 19/89 series of radios until I recently obtained a model 19LZ that had a fantastic chassis resto by Bob Timms (another great american). This is an early model that has no police band. I must admit that it is a good reciever/player. But then it had a good radio guy who did the work on it.

I see that Dan's 19 does not have the "shield" between the power transformer and the 80/42 tubes. Was this an item that was commonly removed, or perhaps it was an item not included on the later model 19s?

Re: Please ID this chassis..I need a cabinet - Ron Ramirez - 09-02-2011

Tom

I've only seen the shield you speak of on 19LZ sets, never on a 19 cathedral or console. I've owned two of the 19LZ sets at two separate points in time, and I sold the second one only because I had no room for it and the less common 91RX. So the 19LZ left and the 91RX stayed. 19LZ models seem to pop up fairly often, while 91RX models are seldom seen. I seem to recall that our friend Glenn has a 19LZ now, the later version with AM and "police" band (4 knobs).

Incidentally, the 91RX also has a shield next to its power transformer, similar to that on the 19LZ. Neither my 91B or my recently acquired 91D have that shield. So, that leads me to believe this shield was only installed on chassis that were put into these 19LZ, 19LZX and 91RX cabinets.

Unlike a lot of people, I have always been a fan of the 19 and 89 series of Philcos. Properly restored, they can be excellent performers. Yes, their oscillator coils are very troublesome, but if they are baked in an oven or blasted with a heat gun, followed by properly rewinding the primary winding which is almost always bad, they are usually trouble-free afterwards.

Re: Please ID this chassis..I need a cabinet - TA Forbes - 09-02-2011

In the hands of an expert like you or Bob, I would imagine that any radio could be improved to be a superior player and reciever! I still like to read your sites about your "Super 89," "Super 91," and your franken-97.

Yes, Glenn has been having some swell luck finding radios! I am hoping that he decides to resto the 116B I traded him soon!