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Some Russian guy restoring a console - worth taking a look - morzh - 05-04-2012
http://www.radiofokus.ru/Radiofok/restavraciya/op_master/georg/Scott/scott.htm
The console being restored is E.H. Scott Philharmonic.
The text is in Russian, but what matters is the pictures.
Appreciate the effort and dedication.
He modified the cabinet just a little.
See how he re-chromed every single detail and with what quality.
I am impressed.
BTW, audiophiles (this is an audiophile website) do not just change the axial paper caps - the re-stuff them, so one would think the old paper caps were never changed.
The guy is the host of that website, Sergey Lisovin, a well-respected old specialist in audio.
PS. I could never imagine to bring myself to put this much effort in restoration. But, audiophiles - they are crazy.
RE: Some Russian guy restoring a console - worth taking a look - Phlogiston - 05-04-2012
That's not a "guy".
RE: Some Russian guy restoring a console - worth taking a look - Arran - 05-04-2012
(05-04-2012, 04:24 PM)morzh Wrote: http://www.radiofokus.ru/Radiofok/restavraciya/op_master/georg/Scott/scott.htm
The console being restored is E.H. Scott Philharmonic.
The text is in Russian, but what matters is the pictures.
Appreciate the effort and dedication.
He modified the cabinet just a little.
See how he re-chromed every single detail and with what quality.
I am impressed.
BTW, audiophiles (this is an audiophile website) do not just change the axial paper caps - the re-stuff them, so one would think the old paper caps were never changed.
The guy is the host of that website, Sergey Lisovin, a well-respected old specialist in audio.
PS. I could never imagine to bring myself to put this much effort in restoration. But, audiophiles - they are crazy.
The audiophiles in Russia must be of a very different breed then the "Audiophools" we have over here, those guys are dedicated restorers, maybe it's something to do during the long winter nights other then read Dostoyevsky, or Tolstoy novels. The first thing an audiophool would do is gut the cabinet, install a hokey POS phonograph made out of lucite under the lid, butcher the audio amp to fit a single ended triode in it (preferably a Western Electric triode), use hand rolled paper caps that cost $60 each, install a $2000 power cord, and use it to drive a pair of German speakers made out of used paper bags.
Regards
Arran
RE: Some Russian guy restoring a console - worth taking a look - morzh - 05-04-2012
(05-04-2012, 08:06 PM)Arran Wrote:(05-04-2012, 04:24 PM)morzh Wrote: http://www.radiofokus.ru/Radiofok/restavraciya/op_master/georg/Scott/scott.htm
The console being restored is E.H. Scott Philharmonic.
The text is in Russian, but what matters is the pictures.
Appreciate the effort and dedication.
He modified the cabinet just a little.
See how he re-chromed every single detail and with what quality.
I am impressed.
BTW, audiophiles (this is an audiophile website) do not just change the axial paper caps - the re-stuff them, so one would think the old paper caps were never changed.
The guy is the host of that website, Sergey Lisovin, a well-respected old specialist in audio.
PS. I could never imagine to bring myself to put this much effort in restoration. But, audiophiles - they are crazy.
The audiophiles in Russia must be of a very different breed then the "Audiophools" we have over here, those guys are dedicated restorers, maybe it's something to do during the long winter nights other then read Dostoyevsky, or Tolstoy novels. The first thing an audiophool would do is gut the cabinet, install a hokey POS phonograph made out of lucite under the lid, butcher the audio amp to fit a single ended triode in it (preferably a Western Electric triode), use hand rolled paper caps that cost $60 each, install a $2000 power cord, and use it to drive a pair of German speakers made out of used paper bags.
Regards
Arran
There are some like that there too, but mostly those are avid radio amateurs/enthusiasts with good experience in electronics, or professionals / semi-professionals.
As for the Audiofools, those I've met; they have told me very seriously, that the whole "power of the sound" is in cables, and those 1000-dollar audio cables with "controlled characteristic impedance" (I wonder if they know what it is) are what makes the sound come out really good. Of course, everything should be gold-plated.
Who do you think buys all this crap in best Buy, when they sell you DVI 6-foot cable for 70-80 bucks when a 6-dolar one works as good or better?
RE: Some Russian guy restoring a console - worth taking a look - Arran - 05-04-2012
There are some like that there too, but mostly those are avid radio amateurs/enthusiasts with good experience in electronics, or professionals / semi-professionals.
As for the Audiofools, those I've met; they have told me very seriously, that the whole "power of the sound" is in cables, and those 1000-dollar audio cables with "controlled characteristic impedance" (I wonder if they know what it is) are what makes the sound come out really good. Of course, everything should be gold-plated.
Who do you think buys all this crap in best Buy, when they sell you DVI 6-foot cable for 70-80 bucks when a 6-dolar one works as good or better?
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My first guess would be the poorer audiphools buy the $70-80 cables. I wouldn't shop at a Best Buy anyhow, even if they had an outlet near me, they are an awful company, like many other hustlers in crap consumer electronics. Best Buy is notorious for hard sell tactics, bait and switch, selling overpriced warrantees, and just bad service, as of late they have also been donating money to C.A.I.R, I won't explain what that is here, you can look it up.
There was a semi famous test where someone substituted a length of steel coat hanger wire (10 AWG I believe) for one of those glorified video patch cables, Monster Brand I believe. With a blind test they switched between the coat hanger and the fancy patch cable and the coat hanger won.
Regards
Arran
RE: Some Russian guy restoring a console - worth taking a look - morzh - 05-04-2012
Better yet, they did the blind test with an el cheapo CD player behind a curtain, telling an audiophile auditory that they were switching between a regular and hi-end tube amplifiers.
The hi-end consistently won. Only for the curtain to be lifted at the end and the Hi-Fi equipment (the el cheapo CD) revealed, together with admitting it was playing all the time.
I think them audiophiles were pissed.
RE: Some Russian guy restoring a console - worth taking a look - codefox1 - 05-07-2012
(05-04-2012, 09:25 PM)morzh Wrote: Better yet, they did the blind test with an el cheapo CD player behind a curtain, telling an audiophile auditory that they were switching between a regular and hi-end tube amplifiers.
The hi-end consistently won. Only for the curtain to be lifted at the end and the Hi-Fi equipment (the el cheapo CD) revealed, together with admitting it was playing all the time.
I think them audiophiles were pissed.
Audiophools aside, I see some great craftmanship far beyond my abilities. Text translation not necessary.
Wonder what they had to pay to get everything re-chromed?
RE: Some Russian guy restoring a console - worth taking a look - morzh - 05-08-2012
Nothing really.
Russian interpersonal relations are all about knowing someone and about barter.
Best craftsmen, unfortunately, are also often drinkers, so sometimes it is a bottle of vodka.
Electrical engineers like myself, who had plenty of good quality drinking grain alcohol (we used that and not isopropyl) can trade that.
Often it is a friend who will do it for free, but you still thank him with something.
Or you do something for him when he needs it.
But it is almost always someone you know, or your friends know.
When I was working at a factory (servicing NC tools), and needed to make a knob for an old meter, I went to one guy I knew right there, and he milled me the knob on a milling tool.
I polished it myself to a high gloss with grit paper and then polishing paste, and then went to another guy I knew at the same factory, and he chromed it for me.
None of them asked for anything (though it was a small job), but they knew if they ever needed anything electronic looked at, they could ask me.
It is rarely about the money changing hands, but this is also possible; it is not expensive, as not many people who are into that kind of activity can afford to pay too much.
Times have changed, and something may be a bit different, but I still keep hearing about those same relations persisting. Capitalism or communism, the people are the same.