4-Band dial scale #27-5039---What Model #? - Printable Version

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4-Band dial scale #27-5039---What Model #? - CrumblingWires - 05-20-2012

Hey All,

Bought a $102 16B Cat escutcheon some extra parts came with it. Since Larry's been in ill health, I've been looking for an escutcheon for mine.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140745877409?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

5 Band chassis HEAVILY MODIFIED with replaced sockets & 6v6s & 6SN7s abound,someone went to a lot of trouble wiring, basically, another radio underneath. The cabinet is more salvageable than the chassis,Seriously Still...

Got this & figured I could use some parts off it down the road besides my desperately needed escutcheon. K-17 speaker that I just glued the paper cone back together. I needed the grille cloth mounting board & now have the 2 original bottom speaker screws. I haven't checked the PT or other transformers, or should I say, transformer.

Being a 5-Band chassis it has a 4-Band dial scale fitted on the *condenser shaft*because of the missing tuning shaft parts, hence thee extra hole with large knob.

I have a 4-Band 16B chassis with dial scale #27-5064 which is correct according to schematics & is different from the 4-Band dial scale #27-5039 that's attached to this modified chassis.

Is there a reverse engineering chart that can find model #s by looking up certain part #s? If not maybe Ron or Chuck can make one up in their spare time.

One other quick 16B question I have; Did the 4-Band chassis ever make it into the cathedral cabinet? Or is that a too late, too early combo?

That 4-Band (low profile tranny) chassis I have needs a home & I'm thinkin' heck maybe I'll need another escutcheon.

Still a 16B noob,
Lloyd
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RE: 4-Band dial scale #27-5039---What Model #? - Arran - 05-20-2012

I thought that the 16Bs used a larger speaker then a K series since they were trying to market them as a high fidelity set? Like a 10 incher not an 8 incher? In any event that set is just awful. I'm pretty sure that the cathedral 16B sets had a five band chassis, which they abandoned early the next year.
Regards
Arran

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RE: 4-Band dial scale #27-5039---What Model #? - Ron Ramirez - 05-20-2012

Hi Lloyd

Should I congratulate you, or should I offer my sympathies?

Philco introduced the 4-band 16 chassis in the Fall of 1934, which was after their 1935 selling season began (which occurred in June 1934). By then the cathedral 16B was long out of production, having been replaced by the Deco "housetop" 16B tombstone in June '34 which still had the 1933 5-band chassis.

You want to make a custom 16B cathedral with a 4-band chassis? Heck, why not? G'ahead, no one will mind.

When I used to do radio repair work for others, once a guy sent me an empty 16B cathedral cabinet, a 116B chassis, and asked me to marry the two together. So I had Dick Oliver make a special front panel...and now he owns the only 116B cathedral in existence, complete with 1936 oval escutcheon (the 116 dial scale is too large to fit behind a conventional 16 escutcheon).

Oh, 27-5039 is the correct dial scale for a model 34, which is the battery-operated version of the 44/144.

Edit: Yes, Arran, the 16B cathedrals used an 8 inch K-17 speaker. Philco switched to the 10-1/2 inch H-13 when they introduced the big tombstone in June 1934.

Skinner & Co. marketed the 16 consoles as sort of "high fidelity" sets. But the 16 sold well not because of its fidelity - but because of its shortwave capabilities.

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RE: 4-Band dial scale #27-5039---What Model #? - TA Forbes - 05-20-2012

My 16B Cathedral has a 1935 four-band, dual drive chassis that I installed in it. I used a K-17 speaker with plug.

http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa372/TAForbes/Philco%2016B%20with%201935%20chassis/

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