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Starting to refinish my Highboy 90 - BrendaAnnD - 09-14-2013
Started working on this cabinet in earnest this evening. Am posting pics of what I've managed so far.
First, the missing veneer from the top:
The left side, looked pretty ugly to start with. Note the deep scratches.
The cabinet partially stripped and sanded.
RE: Starting to refinish my Highboy 90 - BrendaAnnD - 09-14-2013
These wouldn't go into the last post.
This is the veneer that I have here to work with.
And the only color stain I've been able to get. I use it because it's sort of mid-range for most of the radios I've worked on.
I'm open to all suggestions. As I said, I'm no expert on this part of restoration,and I'd like to do as good a job as I can.
RE: Starting to refinish my Highboy 90 - Jamie - 09-14-2013
I'm no expert either, but I'm better at refinishing than I am at chassis work. I'll tell you what I do, but other people might do things differently.
Do you have an old, beat up, scrap radio cabinet that you can salvage veneer from? I find that old pieces are easier to work with. If not, no big deal. Cut pieces of veneer to fit into the missing spots. I've used a pencil and paper to make a tracing of the missing area first, then use the pattern to cut the new piece. You want the grain to run in the same direction as on the radio. Try to get an exact fit, if possible. Once you are happy with the new piece, use wood glue and glue it in place. Use a clamp or heavy weight to hold it down if needed. Let it sit for 24 hours..
Once it's dry, trim any overhang, then take a sanding block and some 300 - 400 grit sandpaper and sand the new veneer (with the grain), until it's level with the veneer on the radio. Once you start getting into the old veneer be careful. Don't want to sand through it.
I personally try not to sand the old cabinet any more than necessary. The wood has developed a petina and sanding removes it and can make the final finish look uneven.
RE: Starting to refinish my Highboy 90 - Electrothaumaturgist - 09-14-2013
You don't waste any time, BrendaAD! I really love those old consoles! I've used that red mahogany before, with a blend of early colonial, seems to get the tone in the ballpark. After I did the 42-400, then I realized (from this phorum) that the way to go is with the toning lacquer (which I will do in the future). I realize that your options are limited, "way over yonder", but am sure that whatever you do will make a vast difference to the cabinet! What kind of stations do they play over yonder, or do you just install an Ipod and play your own?
RE: Starting to refinish my Highboy 90 - BrendaAnnD - 09-14-2013
Of course, 99% of all radio and television here is in Korean. All of the television is, now, since all AFN TV stations that broadcast over the air went off the air a while back.
Basically, then, I have two choices for radio: AFN and my own local broadcast.
For TV, I've spent a zillion bux on building my own CATV/SMATV headend. Right now, I have all the AFN satellite TV channels plus a lot of their radio channels (each of these requires its own satellite receiver and modulator) plus CNN International, a few inhouse entertainment channels (The Roddenberry channel, which also runs any current TV shows we can get ahold of, a cartoon channel, a music video channel and a local weather channel) and several security cam channels. The Roddenberry channel, so dubbed because we run all the Gene Roddenberry shows on it, is in 720i HD.
Now, to keep this on topic, I'll be getting off my butt and over to the shop shortly to start working on that cabinet again. I dread completing all the flat surfaces, because all those fancy knurls and such make me crazy trying to strip them.
RE: Starting to refinish my Highboy 90 - BrendaAnnD - 09-15-2013
Can someone peruse this seller's wares, and tell me which veneer would be best for me to have on hand for Philco restorations (most especially this one)?
http://www.ebay.com/sch/jsowoodproducts/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2654
RE: Starting to refinish my Highboy 90 - Jamie - 09-15-2013
It's a tough call to make without seeing it in real life. Unless I'm going to totally re-veneer a very large area, I don't like the paper backed veneers. I've found that most radio work is just patching in small places where veneer has chipped off. For that, I like the new veneer to be a little thicker, or at least as thick as what is on the radio. If the new veneer is a little thicker, you don't have to sand the old veneer much to get a match in surface height, does that make sense? The paper backed veneer I've seen is very thin. That's why I like to strip veneer off of old, scrap cabinets.
I am assuming you are just planning to patch the veneer on that radio.. so
if I were overseas, and If I had to order some for the radio you are working on, I'd get this..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Walnut-wood-veneer-6-5-x-48-with-no-backing-raw-veneer-/110970144399
It's a nice piece of walnut veneer and should provide a lot of wood to fix typical chipped cabinets. The color is dark enough to blend in with most old wood with years of patina. If I've got to have a mismatch in veneer color, I'd always prefer the new piece be a little darker than the original. I find it's easier to hide the mistake when it's dark. A lighter color really stands out like a sore thumb.
If you are going to re-veneer a large area, then I'd look at the paper backed, iron on veneer. If you are ever at a flea market and see an old table or cabinet with peeling veneer for sale cheap, buy it. It's great to be able to just go break off a small piece when you need it.
RE: Starting to refinish my Highboy 90 - Arran - 09-15-2013
Judging by the photos what the cabinet originally had was a plain cut French walnut veneer. There are some guys on fleabay that sell it in assorted quantities, lengths and widths, but there are plenty of mail order houses that have it as well including Constantines. It would probably be best to make a straight line patch parallel to the grain where the veneer is chipped out, it's easier then trying to cut and fit a smaller patch to fit the chipped out area and a lot easier then trying to reveneer an entire panel.
Regards
Arran