Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - Printable Version
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Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - rocklandman - 02-28-2014
I came across this ! There appears to be enough for 6 more tombstone or Cathedral radios, was enough for maybe 8 but some was cut out.
There was an invoice from 1974 in with it?
What do you guys think?
Rock
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - TimC - 02-28-2014
Looks familiar
Save me one for my 570 clock. The stuff on it now looks like poop.
Nice!
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - Ron Ramirez - 02-28-2014
It's the correct pattern for 21, 70, 90, 71, 91, 19, older 89, and more...(not 20 though)...
But no one was reproducing grille cloth in 1974. That's the year I started collecting. As I recall, no one was reproducing anything yet at that time.
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - Radioroslyn - 02-28-2014
Back then nobody cared any old tablecloth would do.
Terry
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - klondike98 - 02-28-2014
Nice find! Probably some other treasures in there as well
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - PhilcoJohn - 02-28-2014
Nice find let us know what else you come across thats interesting.
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - Jake Blake - 03-10-2014
This is my question, answered nicely! Can I get some of it for my late 89B from 1933?
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - Phlogiston - 03-10-2014
Here is a bit of blasphemy for you - Ron turn your head.
There were 3 patterns sold by GCH with that pattern. The only difference was color. They were Patterns 1. 2 and 24. Pattern 24 was described as a "weathered look" of pattern 2, but could be better described as a reddish brown version. This pattern was also used on some of the big, late 30s Zenith consoles.
If what you have is that pattern, I would be better to hold on to it intact, since these console take a larger piece. A GC similar to pattern 1 is being reproduced currently.
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - klondike98 - 03-10-2014
Russ, who is GCH?....oh, probably GrilleCloth Headquarters?
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - Phlogiston - 03-10-2014
Sorry, yes it is.
By the way, I saved pictures of all of the old patterns, if they are ever needed.
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - Ron Ramirez - 03-10-2014
Phlogiston Wrote:There were 3 patterns sold by GCH with that pattern.
Yes, I know that - I helped John develop many of those patterns, actually, by providing samples and critiquing the new products as they developed. (I didn't help with the 70/90 pattern, but I did help with some of the other Philco patterns he used to offer.)
If you're counting #24 (and I never did since it was not authentic), there were four variants, actually.
#1 (whiskey)
#2 (copper)
Unknown number (a combination of whiskey and copper)
#24 "weathered look"
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - Phlogiston - 03-10-2014
Agreed Ron, but I don't know what the 4th pattern was. Anyway the poorly colored pattern 24 is great for Zeniths, and if anybody comes by some of this nasty stuff, I would be happy to have it. It also was a perfect match for some 30s Crosleys and other makes.
RE: Did I just Find Original 20 / 70 Grille Cloth? - Ron Ramirez - 03-11-2014
I looked at a couple different versions of John's old site last night via the Wayback Machine, and did not see the combination whiskey/copper variation. Maybe that variation was sold by Michael Katz instead of John Okolowicz? Anyway, I not only remember the cloth, I had some sets pass through my possession that had that cloth installed.
Some Philco 89s and a few other 1933 Philcos did use a factory copper version of that cloth, so it was good that John offered both.