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Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - SpareTimeGizmos - 12-29-2019

I recently had a Philco 60B given to me.  I'm pretty competent in modern electronics but I've never restored an antique radio before.  This one appears to be in pretty good shape - dusty, but not much rust or corrosion.  The antenna and oscillator coils have continuity (nice that the schematic gives actual DC resistance values for these!), as do the power transformer windings, so I figure I've got a good sporting chance.

  My first problem, though, is that the speaker cone is trashed.  It looks like somebody stuck something thru the grill at some point and ripped out the cloth and speaker both.  The field coil, voice coil, and OPT appear to be OK.  Is there anybody who re-cones these speakers?  Alternatively, is there a source for replacement cones so that I can try to re-cone it myself?

Thanks!

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - morzh - 12-29-2019

We have Sound Remedy in NJ. I am sure every state has a business or two who recone speakers.

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - Stall-U-Rated - 12-30-2019

Sound remedy did mine.... Icon_thumbup

Steve

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - Jake Blake - 12-30-2019

Welcome to the Phabulous Philco Phorum !

We have Eminence Speaker LLC nearby Louisville.  I've purchased drivers directly from them, but I'm not sure if they actually offer any kind of re-coning service like we collectors here need.  I'll have to check that out when I get to  my 610.  If I discover they do, I'll let you know.

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - SpareTimeGizmos - 12-30-2019

Sound Remedy is these guys in NJ?

      http://www.soundremedynj.com/contact.htm

  The Philco speaker has an unusual spider arrangement that I've never seen before.  Don't know if that'll be a problem or not, but I'll ask them.

Thanks!

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - Phlogiston - 12-30-2019

You can also replace the cone yourself.

Sellers on E-Pay, usually a couple of $.

   

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - rfeenstra - 12-30-2019

Russ, you do nice work!

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - SpareTimeGizmos - 12-30-2019

Yeah, that's beautiful!

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - morzh - 12-30-2019

Sound remedy did several for me. The last ones were 16 cathedral and 38-690 tweeters, plus they patched the woofer for free when they realized they could not replace 14" cone.
They do not carry 14"-ers. They suggested putting a ring and thenfitting 12" cone but then agreed to patch the existing one and didn't charge me. Did a fne job at that.

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - wardmc1 - 01-23-2020

Question related to this thread. If you purchase a new cone to recone a speaker, the voice coil will not match. I have a 37-610 with a bad speaker that needs to be reconed. The voice coil is 1 Ohm, the replacement cones I see have 4 Ohm voice coils. How can you make the replacement cone work?

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - Phlogiston - 01-24-2020

You have to reuse the original voice coil/former and the spider.

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - wardmc1 - 01-24-2020

Thank You Russ,
Makes sense. Shouldn't be too bad with this one. The spider looks fine, I'll have to take it apart to see about the rest. What glue do you recommend to use to glue the voice coil to the new cone?
Which speaker cone do you like? I see you buy them on EBAY. Which seller has one you recommend?

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - Phlogiston - 01-24-2020

I use white wood glue, like it was contact cement. Apply a little to both surfaces, allow to partly dry prior to joining parts.

The issue with vendors is the changing inventory. Finding cones with paper suspension is much harder than finding ones with foam roll suspension especially in 3", 4" and 5" cones. Be careful not to get a cone with the VC cut-out (center) too large. You can cut a cone that has a VC cut-out that is too small.

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - Jake Blake - 01-24-2020

Russ,  did you get my PM?

RE: Philco 60 Speaker re-cone? - Phlogiston - 01-24-2020

I did. Thanks.