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RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - 462ron - 11-30-2017

Thanks Mike. I didn't realize there was such a difference in ripple rating depending on the size in mfds. Learn something everyday!

Ron


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - morzh - 12-01-2017

Ron

The ripple rating is not directly tied to mictofarads but rather, with the same cap type, to the sheer physical size. The same current, even if having produced same amount of heat (though it will likely be more due to a possible increase in the ESR in smaller one) will increase the temperature more for a smaller mass and less for a larger mass.
There are few factors.

The caps of old were not even rated for ripple, they were huge and any sensible current in old radios or amps didn't matter. Today the same value cap is 10 times smaller. If not less.


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - 462ron - 12-01-2017

Yes Mike makes sense. There was so much mass to the original electrolytics thatnthey could dissipate the heat better than the small units today. A mix here of some electronics and physics!

Ron


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - Arran - 12-02-2017

In addition to what Mike said, if you have an early AC radio, such as a Philco 77, 95, 20, or an RCA Radiola 18, these sets used large value paper capacitors for filter capacitors, between 1 and 3 uf, not electrolytic capacitors. When replacing the original filter capacitors it's best to use plastic film capacitors of a similar value, not electrolytics, small value electrolytics can't take the ripple and will inevitably fail regardless of the voltage rating. Fortunately plastic film caps are considerably smaller and more economical in larger values then their paper cap ancestors, so you might as well use them.
Regards
Arran


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - Stall-U-Rated - 01-06-2018

If you see a USPS jet fly over, be sure to wave, my speaker is on its way to NJ...Icon_biggrin

Steve


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - morzh - 01-06-2018

Oh, if it is on its way to Rich, then both of y'all are gonna be happy with the results.


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - Kenneth F. Besso Jr. - 01-07-2018

just seen it fly into Phila,,,,,right over my house,,,is the flight patten


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - morzh - 01-07-2018

In the evening I heard someone blowing a raspberry over our in the sky; I think it was the bad cone saying 'hi' to Jersey pholks.


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - Stall-U-Rated - 01-07-2018

LOL!!  That naughty 1/3rd of a cone.... Bitter to the end it is.. Icon_twisted

Box marked "Attn Rich Stamer"......He'll teach it some manners!!! Icon_thumbup

Steve


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - Stall-U-Rated - 01-15-2018

Ooooo-weeee  thats purrr-deeee!! Icon_thumbup 

Steve


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - morzh - 01-15-2018

Oh yeah....


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - Kenneth F. Besso Jr. - 01-16-2018

very Nice JOB


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - Stall-U-Rated - 06-23-2018

Inspired by another thread here, i decided to check some output on the power transformer today........ With 115vac going in, im getting 360vac out of both transformer taps to the #80 tube (removed of course)...

Let it run for a bit with all the tubes and pilot lamps a glow and the transformer stayed room temp...

These numbers sound right to anyone whose dealt with a 16b?


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - morzh - 06-23-2018

If you mean ends to center then yes.


RE: Stall's 16b cathedral - Stall-U-Rated - 06-24-2018

Rest assured, the center tap was involved with those readings, i would have been REALLY BUMMED if that was the sum of the ends combined... They seemed a tad low compared to the readings i saw in a video on "the tube".. And after seeing that burnt bakelite block in the circuit, i was a bit concerned.

Definitely feeling more confident about that transformer now... Thanks for the confirmation Icon_thumbup 

Steve