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Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - Ron Ramirez - 04-09-2018

Hello friends,

Can anyone tell me where I can find suitable brass eyelets to fasten tube sockets and tube shield bases to a chassis? And the tool(s) to use to fasten everything down?

Here's the backstory: I'm working on a 38-690. Some doofus forcibly removed some of the tube shield bases from the tuner in order to allow metal and GT tubes to be used. I wish to replace the tube shield bases.

Yes, I could simply use pop rivets, which is what I have done in the past. But one wire must pass through one of the eyelets, so a pop rivet cannot be used in that particular spot.

Any/all help appreciated. Also, any advice on how to do this would also be appreciated. In 44 years of working on vintage radios, I've never worked with brass eyelets so this is all new to me.

Thanks.

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - w4rtc - 04-09-2018

Hi Ron
Can you use pop rivets and drive the "nail" part out then with use a blunt set punch to flat the rivet. That should. Leave a hole for the wire. By the way I have 4 of those bases if you need them. Joe

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - Phlogiston - 04-09-2018

While I have found suitable rivets, I have never found a suitable eyelet nor the tool that would be needed. I checked Keystone, they only have very small ones.

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - gregb - 04-09-2018

Hi Ron:
You can get the eyelets from the link below or I get them at a local craft store, they use them for making jewelry.
https://www.rivetsonline.com/

You can get the tool from AES
https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/staking-tool-eyelets-and-turrets

Gregb

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - Phlogiston - 04-09-2018

Something like the 'rivet nuts" might work (I already have a "nut zirc tool) but I have found the hobby store eyelets to be too weak to hold chassis parts. They need to be thicker/stronger.

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - morzh - 04-09-2018

Ron

I did the same with my 20 restoration in 2011 - I described it. I used copper rivets, took out the mandrel and used an obtuse-angle cone end tool (in my case - a large screw extracting bit) to flare the rivet.

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - Crist Rigotti - 04-09-2018

Try here:

http://www.intl-eyelets.com/index.html

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - Phlogiston - 04-09-2018

None of those PC board eyelets were intended for mounting parts though the ones on page 2 of the rolled eyelets come close. It is not clear if the tool will roll the unrolled end (to be rolled at both ends). A description of the tool would help a lot but there does not seem to be one.

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - Arran - 04-10-2018

Ron;
  Maybe try a place that sells leather working supplies and tools, they have all sorts of hardware that may be worth a look, such as Tandy leather.
Regards
Arran

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - John Bartley - 04-10-2018

Ron,

Just a thought .... I've not done this. Could you use a boat style rivet (solid), then drill out the centre? I think these rivets are available in mild steel and shouldn't be too hard to work with. As an alternative you could use the aluminum ones, and for any bases that require grounding you could run a short ground wire?

as I said ... just a thought.

cheers

EDIT :: so I went for a google hunt and found this place which may or may not be a place to order from, but at the least is a good source of info : https://www.rivetsonline.com/index.php
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RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - Ron Ramirez - 04-10-2018

Thanks everyone. I think I will find out what size eyelets I need and order some, and do some experimentation. If all else fails I will pop rivet the one shield base and drill a separate hole for the grid lead. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

(04-09-2018, 10:49 AM)w4rtc Wrote:  By the way I have 4 of those bases if you need them. Joe

Thanks Joe, but I already have plenty of bases. Mostly 1937 style as any type of tube (metal, GT and G) can be used with these. The 1938 bases limit you to the G type. When the shield is in place one cannot tell which base is being used.

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - Ron Ramirez - 04-10-2018

(04-09-2018, 01:20 PM)morzh Wrote:  I did the same with my 20 restoration in 2011 - I described it. I used copper rivets, took out the mandrel and used an obtuse-angle cone end tool (in my case - a large screw extracting bit) to flare the rivet.

Can you post a link to the thread you are referring to, please? I searched for it but after looking through two dozen or more results, I gave up.

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - morzh - 04-10-2018

http://www.philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=6326

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - Ron Ramirez - 04-10-2018

Thanks, Mike, very much appreciated.

RE: Where to find eyelets and tool(s)? - oscartg - 04-12-2018

I wonder if you're referring to brass grommets?

https://www.amazon.com/Grommets-Brass-Industrial-Hardware/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A16409771%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A3071257011