[Memetrader]

Hi -

I am based in the UK and appreciate you having me on your forum.

This radio (images below) is a possibly my next restoration. It will be the first Philco and I would like as much information as possible from the experts on this particular model before I start.

I have a two page service sheet with a circuit diagram which is a good start  

Thank you.

[Radioroslyn]

Hi Memetrader and welcome to the Phorum!
Well the cabinet looks a bit like are 1948 model table set. Unfortunately a lot of the UK models don't have an American counterpart. If you need any help with the chassis repair/restoration I'd be happy to give you a hand if you post a pic of the schematic. Ron may be able to shed some more light on to your set.
GL
Terry

[PhilcoJohn]

Hi welcome to the forum! This website is the best. Everyone is helpful and a lot of fun to talk to. I hope you find it helpful and again welcome.

[Ron Ramirez]

Hi Memetrader

The cabinet of your Philco Tropic appears to be identical to the USA model 48-464, save for the dial scale. And both are AC/DC sets. That is where the similarities end. The 48-464 has two bands where the B.2810 has three, and the 48-464 has six tubes (valves) while the B.2810 has five. So, electronically, the B.2810 does not correspond with any American Philco model.

It looks like your set is a 1949 or 1950 model. I'm afraid that's about all that I can offer in regards to information on this one.

Please do post a copy of the schematic if you can. Terry (Radioroslyn) is a great troubleshooter.

[klondike98]

Welcome to the Phorum!! Yes, please post your restoration progress. We don't see too many UK sets here.

[Memetrader]

Thank you for the welcome.

Circuit diagram image below and the valve lineup is:

V1 14S7
V2 7B7
V3 12Q7
V4 50L6
V5 35Z4

[Ron Ramirez]

Since we're going into a restoration here, I moved this thread to Philco Electronic Restoration. I also changed the title of the thread so people can look through the topics and immediately know which model this thread covers. Hope you don't mind, Memetrader - this will help others in the future looking for info on this model.

I've written about the restoration of several Philco Tropic sets here - I look forward to reading about this one.

[Memetrader]

No problem and thank you.

[Arran]

 Very interesting, it uses a triode-heptode mixer-oscilator tube, I have the Canadian version of a 48-464, a model 76, same cabinet as yours, but it also has six tubes, and an oval electrodynamic speaker. Unfortunately it will not be restored, I bought the 76 as a parts set since the cabinet is broken in several places, also the dial scale is no good.
 I can't remember what the tube lineup was, so I don't know how much it differs from the U.S version. The tube/valve lineups one usually sees from this era have something like either a XXD/14AF7 twin triode as a mixer oscilator, or a 7A8 as an octode mixer-oscillator, then it will have something like a 7B7 for an IF amp (or RF amp in sets using a 7A8), another 7B7 IF amp, a 7C6, a 35L6/35A5 or 50L6/50A5 as a power output, and one of three types of rectifier tubes a 35Z5, a 35Z3, or a 35Y4, I've never seen a 35Z4 in a 1940s Philco as yet.
Regards
Arran

[Memetrader]

Thank you for the comments. I will begin restoration towards the end of the year and will be asking questions and posting pictures in this thread when I get started....