Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Model 18 (124) Electrolytic Voltage
#1

I have been rebuilding a model 18 (code124) and I restuffed the old E-Cap cans. I recently discovered that the 10uF connected between chassis and B- (part of #59 on the schematic) is 50 volts. I used a 500 volt cap. The radio plays good but I am wondering if I need to change it back to somewhere between 50 and 100 volts.
#2

Should work just fine Pappy. Welcome to the Phorum.
Jerry

A friend in need is a pest!  Bill Slee ca 1970.
#3

One thing for sure, you won't have to worry about the surge at turnon.
#4

Thanks for the reply's, I just wonder if it will get enough voltage through it to keep it healthy over time.
#5

Doesn't matter. It's the max voltage you need to consider. You are just oversized or overrated on the cap... no harm done, should last a long time

Don
#6

Well, let's be correct: for tube radios this in practice does not matter, you only have to deal with a larger size cap where you could use a smaller one.

Outside the tube radio applications yes, you do not want a higher voltage cap in place of a low voltage one. At least most of the times.
#7

morzh Wrote:Outside the tube radio applications yes, you do not want a higher voltage cap in place of a low voltage one.

Why? Just curious and interested...thx.
#8

I think it has something to do with ESR?
#9

Yes, more or less. That is ESR/ripple vs size vs capacitance vs voltage.

Well, eventually comes down to size.

Same size will have lower capacitance vs higher voltage dependency, and the ripple rating either stays the same or goes down if you keep the same case size but increase the voltage. Most times, especially if the increase in voltage is several times, it will go down.

So you have to increase the size quite a bit since you want the same capacitance and not lose your ripple rating. In old radios we are not limited with the space.
In any other applications we are.

Also in commercial consumer application the significant difference in price between even 16V and 50V caps of the same capacitance and ripple rating will simply kill you. Icon_smile
#10

Thanks for the explanation morzh and Brenda. ESR in my field is electron spin resonance Icon_lol




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
My collection presentation
Vlad; I thought your brown RCA portable looked familiar, I have one that is very similar, the RCA-Victor model BX-55....Arran — 02:31 AM
Value of capacitor
OP is "original poster"klondike98 — 11:05 PM
Value of capacitor
What is an OP?  Looks like the “OP” mistakenly typed electrolytic.  Lets forgive him.Joe Rossi — 06:31 PM
Another amp build - here I go again!
How many amps a man can have? I say, as many as the space can hold.morzh — 10:01 AM
Value of capacitor
>>>It currently has an .005 1000 volt electrolytic that is at least 40 years old. That needs to go. There i...morzh — 10:00 AM
One irritating little amp - VM 557
The VM amps were kinda weird, but as you say, they did work well until they didn't. I just got a bag full of new tube so...TV MAN — 08:56 AM
Another amp build - here I go again!
I have a pair of Mk3 Dynas and they always sounded great with plenty of punch. 6550 is the same as a KT88 except usually...TV MAN — 08:45 AM
philco predicta
As Mr. Fix says, this is a live chassis so without an isolation transformer, it can be dangerous to work on. There's goo...TV MAN — 08:33 AM
Value of capacitor
If this helps you sort it out just remember 10,000 mmfd or pf = .01 mfd. So 5,000mmfd = .005 mfd.Radioroslyn — 04:23 PM
Value of capacitor
OP here- the parts list calls for an .005 1000 volt mica. It currently has an .005 1000 volt electrolytic that is at lea...bridkarl — 02:09 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>