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Magnavox Regency Symphony, 1947?
03-04-2011, 08:57 PM
As long as they are good, and, G style, I'm a happy camper. Please pm, or, e mail me. Thanks.
Bill Cahill "If it lights in the dark and leaves you with a warm glow it's tubes." "Honey, did you warm the baby bottle on my 75 watt hi-fi again?" "I left it somewhere, but, where?" 
03-04-2011, 09:30 PM
Hi Bill
The FM part was purchased seperate. it is a chassis that fits on top of the AM tuner (there usually a mounting plate near the top of the cabinet there for it) and plugs into the main chassis you will see the plugs for it on the rear of the chassis. I found a FM tuner for mine on Ebay. They show up once in a while. The FM chassis you need is the CR-189B, but a CR-192 will work just fine (just remember the FM chassis is inverted). I will check and see if I Have a good pair of 6L6's. As far as manuals I think they are available on Ebay. I just have what I got from NA. There was three changers that they used on these models, the 78 only was a 56, the 33 1/3 and 78 was the 256 and the three speed was the 356. I think they came out with the changers as the records were invented. They were all webcor changers. Hope I have been some help. Joe Joe Bratcher near Louisville, KY 
03-04-2011, 09:31 PM
One of the best places to get tubes:
http://www.findatube.com/ Take a look at this page, do any of these pictures match what you have? (Be aware the pictures on this page are poor quality, but mostly recognizable.) http://fultonhistory.com/Process%20small...200312.PDF -- Ron Ramirez Ferdinand IN
03-04-2011, 10:59 PM
The first one, the Belvedere chipendale mahoganny was the cabinet my father's was in.
Radio had eye, am, two sw, and, early fm. Had auto reject of 78 changer on front panel, and, amp 111A. Mine is not pictured. I just took pics. Give me about an hour, and, I'll put 'em here. Bill Cahill "If it lights in the dark and leaves you with a warm glow it's tubes." "Honey, did you warm the baby bottle on my 75 watt hi-fi again?" "I left it somewhere, but, where?"
03-05-2011, 12:15 AM
Here are pictures of my radio. I found out it's model CR-198C.
Enjoy.... [Image: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b122/5...cs0018.jpg] [Image: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b122/5...cs0016.jpg] [Image: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b122/5...cs0013.jpg] [Image: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b122/5...0008-1.jpg] [Image: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b122/5...0007-1.jpg] [Image: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b122/5...cs0004.jpg] [Image: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b122/5...cs0002.jpg] [Image: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b122/5...cs0004.jpg] What do you think, guys, and, what style cabinet is this called? Bill Cahill "If it lights in the dark and leaves you with a warm glow it's tubes." "Honey, did you warm the baby bottle on my 75 watt hi-fi again?" "I left it somewhere, but, where?"
03-05-2011, 03:56 PM
I found the chassis for an Amp 101B. Tried looking it up on NA.
They had infor on a ge instead. Is this the fabled 6L6 P P parallel amp? Bill Cahi "If it lights in the dark and leaves you with a warm glow it's tubes." "Honey, did you warm the baby bottle on my 75 watt hi-fi again?" "I left it somewhere, but, where?"
03-05-2011, 04:17 PM
No, the AMP-101 uses four 6V6 output tubes in parallel push-pull. That's what I have in my Regency - well, actually, it is the older AMP-101A. The difference between the AMP-101A and 101B? One .03 uF capacitor, part (5), was added, along with one 3900 ohm resistor, part (8).
AMP-101A is listed twice at NA, here's the first one: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel...010293.pdf and the second: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel...010294.pdf The one-page mention of AMP-101B: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel...010295.pdf -- Ron Ramirez Ferdinand IN
03-05-2011, 07:11 PM
Man, my brain is failing. You're right. That was the Amp 111A, wasn't it?
Sorry 'bout that.  My brain just ain't what it used to be.Thanks, Ron. What did you guys think about the radio I have? Bill Cahill "If it lights in the dark and leaves you with a warm glow it's tubes." "Honey, did you warm the baby bottle on my 75 watt hi-fi again?" "I left it somewhere, but, where?" 
03-05-2011, 07:33 PM
Hi Bill,
Very interesting radio. Is that a Berkely? I don't know too much about Magnavoxes yet but what you have isn't like my Belvedere. My dial bezel is brown plastic. Yours is some kind of metal, from the appearance, & has more taper than mine. And mine has (8) pushbuttons. Speakers are in a different location. I know you asked for pictures of what I have but I don't have enough room on my card until I can dump them onto the computer, or a disc and I need the help of my computer genius brother to do all that and i haven't been able to do that yet. Apologies. I think your radio is older. What kind of changer is in it? I'm not sure mine even works, I haven't powered her up. Any Maggie of similar vintage and configuration is very interesting to me. Mine also has the two chassis setup. Mike
03-05-2011, 08:12 PM
As you can see, mine is a single chassis. It's a model 56 Webster. Original got "ratted" out. I have an exact replacement changer for it.
Front of set is metal. It's a two band radio that came out in 1946. Not sure what the cabinet style is. That's what I'm asking..... I like the case, though. I think I can save that. Actually, did a little more cleaning on it last night, and, it's a little better than I thought. Still needs work, though. Bill Cahill Oh. I think one day soon, I'll take some pics of my still partly dissassembled comb. 1947 radio, tv, phono. Haven't restored changer yet, and, have to get two of the 5" tweeters rebuilt. It uses a 15" woofer. That one has no eye tube, but, has am, sw, and, old fm band, that had been proffessionally redone so it gets the "New" fm band. Tw, and, radio are electrically restored. John Folsom has a rare deluxe one in a very tall book case that has same amp, and, speaker system as the one my father's had. My fathers' set was 1946, and, John's is 1947. Bill Cahill I really like these old Maggys. "If it lights in the dark and leaves you with a warm glow it's tubes." "Honey, did you warm the baby bottle on my 75 watt hi-fi again?" "I left it somewhere, but, where?"
03-06-2011, 01:02 AM
OOPS! didn't see the CR 198 number!
Firstly, Bill's Maggie is definitely a postwar. The prewar sets had a totally different control panel. Try to get someone to look for two rubber stamped numbers on the receiver chassis. One will be the "CR" number. The other will be a six digit number, like 470822, which would mean 1947, August 22. That would be the date the set was made. While some sheets are missing from my postwar Maggie book, The model numbers in my Magnavox book go around the CR 198. Nertz! The early postwar FM tuners had both FM bands on them. The one I sent Ron had only the present one. I once had a Regency-Symphony in Walnut, back when I was still in Detroit. I had to sell it because of no space . I didn't know about the dates at the time, nor model designations. It must have been a late version, because it had a single chassis, 6L6 power amps, and the FM band on the main receiver chassis. I had service notes art the time, but it was before I had my Magnavox manuals. Now, after the Belvedere and Regency models were done, Magnavox built a line of phonographs, using the 4-6V6 amplifier, with preamp stages. They called them: Magnasonic. They had Collaro changers, with Ronette pickups, as I remember. They had the two speakers as did the Regency and Belvedere. I haven't had mine fired up for several years. They'd blow the RCA "New Orthophonics" out of the water. I have a prewar Regency-Symphony. It resembles the one Ron nhas, but is a slight bit different. The chassis is a single one, with Push Pull 6L6 power amps, and the two speakers. It even resembles Bill's. Magnavox had an FM tuner as an accessory for that set, and I have one (42-50MC), but it is set up for other than my cabinet. The changer was the 3 post Webster-Chicago top line model for 1941-42. It was made totally of die castings, and they simply fell apart. I have one that's disintegrating, and not suitable for use in the Maggie cabinet.
03-06-2011, 09:21 AM
Mine appears to be missing the serial number, but, as you can see, it is a CR-198C, which in my mind makes it late 1946. What is the cabinet style of mine called, and, would it take the fm tuner? If so, can anyone find one for me??
There doesn't seem to be much room above for one. Are you sure yours isn't a Stromberg Carlson changer? That one is a "Slicer style", and, parts made of pot metal. Mine uses a standard 78 rpm only Webster 56 style. I have the combination 1947 Radio-TV-Phono with a 2 speed Webster Chicago. That one has early fm, but, has been retuned for modern fm band.NO eye tube. It uses the seperate amp 101 with 4 6V6 output tubes, 15" woofer, and, 2 5" electro dynamic tweeters. Strange.. They have those magnets in series, and, connected to ac line. Main speaker field is in B+ supply. The tuner also has a min. tube for fm... It's in a plain jane cabinet. Might be a Regency style, but, not as nice as my father's was. It has some veneer problems I need to fix. Bill Cahill "If it lights in the dark and leaves you with a warm glow it's tubes." "Honey, did you warm the baby bottle on my 75 watt hi-fi again?" "I left it somewhere, but, where?"
03-08-2011, 03:38 AM
Well, tonight I pulled out the chassis on mine, after looking up on NA what electrolytics I need.
I did a good chassis, and, tube cleanning. I now have chassis upside down on the bench, and, all needed electrolytics out. I had replaced the paper capacitors about 20 years ago, or, was it 25? Whatever... Anyway, I'm now ready to start replacing the electrolytics. I'm kind of excited to get this thing playing again!  Bill Cahill "If it lights in the dark and leaves you with a warm glow it's tubes." "Honey, did you warm the baby bottle on my 75 watt hi-fi again?" "I left it somewhere, but, where?"
03-10-2011, 04:20 PM
Looks like another Philco afficienado has picked up a Magnavox. It's me. There has been a prewar Maggie Belvedere on Cragslist for a month or more. It looked good in they guy's pictures, and the ad stayed for possibly a month. I wanted to call about it, but the Buick wagon has been on the mend for all of that time. Finally, I called, and it hadn't been sold, so I went over to see it. As I knew, it's a prewar Belvedere. Grille cloth is missing from both speakers (?). Cabinet is very nice, and the original changer is in it. Phono isn't working, but no problem. I was surprised that the changer is a Garrard; possibly an RC-60. It has the big arm to hold the records, and is a pusher platform changer. Now, I'm wondering if my Regency of the same vintage might have had that changer too, instead of the Webster 3 poster that Magnavox, Stromberg, Zenith, and even Philco used. The pickup has been messed around with, but I'm sure I can handle that.
Once the chassis is re-capped, it'll be an incredible performer. It has the big glass 6L6's, which might even be original. I'm going to have to look at John Okolowicz' grills cloth patterns to see what will look right in that cabinet. It might have been the same pattern that's in my Regency. Maybe this is another Deja-vu for me. The elementary school that I attended, had just replaced a little RCA phono combination with a Maggie Belvedere, in the auditorium, around 1942. I was passing the auditorium doors, in the hall, when I heard that Belvedere playing Allen Jones' "Donkey Serenade. I was sort of hypnotized at hearing it. The sound was fabulous. I have that record, so maybe I can remember that moment now. Magnavox traditionally used the same chassis on both the Regency and the Belvedere. Those were their top models, below the Windsor. So, if you'd get a postwar Belvedere, you'd ge the receiver chassis, and the amplifier with the P-P parallel 6V6's, like Ron has. So, now, I'll have the Philco 37-650XP, and that Maggie to play with.
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