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Can anyone ID this radio?
#1

I picked up this 5 tube for $10 at a flea mkt. It has nothing on it in regards to make or model. Can anyone ID it?

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#2

And the inside back looks.....

Terry
#3

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#4

Don't think the cabinet goes the chassis it also seems to have some sort of power transformer. This maybe for isolation.
What are the # on the tubes?? I would guess that it's a 5 tube ac/dc model.

Terry
#5

It's a Philco of some sort. The transformer has a Philco marking on it. A Google on the serial number says it's a choke. The tubes are:

12SK7

35Z5

12SA7 G7

12SQ7

With one MIA....
#6

The audio transformer has an STC logo on it....
#7

Hi'
This is just my opinion, but the cabinet looks to be home made. Also, it could be possible this was some kind of "kit" radio, built by someone as a project or a hobby. I've seen old magazines with correspondence school ads for radio repair the would send out kits as part of the course, so this could be one of those. I had to build a radio from a kit when I studying electronic servicing in Tech college back in the early '90s. That tube layout is the classic "All American 5" design so it would be perfect for teaching radio construction and repair.
Again, that is just my two cents. I have several off brand Bakelite radios that have no identifying marks on them as well, so it could be some obscure maker few people have seen as well. Good luck with it!
Kevin 
#8

Actually the cabinet looks to be manufactured based on the jointing quality and veneering. But the chassis definitely looks like it's been modified. Did they sell factory cases for kit radios back then?

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#9

(06-18-2016, 10:37 PM)Tgace459 Wrote:  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/kzZxhBD.jpg]

That transformer/choke definitely looks like it was added on "aftermarket". Or to a different chassis that was put into a cabinet from a different radio....maybe?
#10

After looking closer at the cabinet, I agree with you about it being factory made or at least being made by someone with advanced skills and tools. It still could be a kit type radio sold with a basic case. What's weird is that there doesn't seem to be any dial cover, just a hole cut in the case. Either that or it could just be a cheapie model sold by some discount outfit? definitely a mystery, but that is what makes it fun!!
Kevin
#11

(06-19-2016, 12:14 PM)37silverstreak Wrote:  After looking closer at the cabinet, I agree with you about it being factory made or at least being made by someone with advanced skills and tools. It still could be a kit type radio sold with a basic case. What's weird is that there doesn't seem to be any dial cover, just a hole cut in the case. Either that or it could just be a cheapie model sold by some discount outfit? definitely a mystery, but that is what makes it fun!!
Kevin

It looks like there was something covering the dial at some point. There is some sort of adhesive residue on the back side of the opening.....no knobs on it either of course.
#12

1+ Kevin
The mia tube is a 50L6. From the chassis layout I would think that the 50L6 would go where the 12SQ7 is but I could be wrong. Check the wiring to see where the output transformer is connected, that's where the 50L6 goes. Blue wire to pin 3 and red wire to pin 4. The problem is that there was so many of these types of set made that it is difficult to pin down a specific manufacturer w/o any markings. Again I would guess that the chassis may have originally come from a bakelite cabinet set because of the slotted hole at the rear. Truth be told I think most have seen so many of these 5 tube ac/dc sets we can work on them blindfolded. So from a service aspect it's not a problem. If you have a burning desire to know the who and when that when it's an issue.

Terry
#13

This one is going to be on the BackBurner in terms of working on it. But I'm sure I'll have some questions for the experts here when I get around to it. I also picked up a nice little Bakelite Philco 48-200 for $20 from the same guy....I'll probably be hounding you guys on that one next! Icon_smile
#14

           
Looking at info from GE lost of radios with that tube line up. Will try and attach sch for several at least something so start with.
#15

A guy on Facebook identified it as a Griffin-Smith Goldentone IC-12, which was a bakelite case and didn't have that transformer or extra chassis. Someone did some sort of basement Frankenstein job on it and put it into a case from an entirely different radio.




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