Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Philco 70 rf-coil
#1

Hi guy's, working on a "70" of which the RF-Coil primary is open, what should the reading be across the primary winding. I need to rewind it, have not done this before. I have the info from the Philco Bench on RF-Coils no info for the inductance.
Thanks

Jim
Spring Lake MI
#2

Jim

Unless there is data available, the best way is to unwind the coil counting the turns and then see what gauge it is (calipers will do) and wind it using the same or larger gauge (larger is fine as long as it fits in the bobbin).

The reading is not important; what important is the number of turns and, in case of tuned circuit, the length of the winding in total (affects inductance; this is why for this type of coils the gauge should be observed).
Ohms are not really a parameter with coils, it is a parasitic.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#3

Hi Jim.....

I just finished rewinding 2 coils out of a Model 84.....the Ant. and Osc. coils. Both the primaries had the "Green Gunge". This is a chemical reaction between the silk covered #36 primary coil and the celluloid underlay. Moisture, I'd assume, would be a factor in this. 

Use #36 enamel wire as a replacement. Don't worry about the turns needed.....measure the width of the old coil with a micrometer, remove the old wire, lay in the new to the same width dimension. Remember, the new wire has to be laid in the same direction as the old! And, be careful around the celluloid....it pretty fragile if you want to keep it. Doing the whole job under an illuminated magnifying lamp would make the going a lot easier. (wish I had one!)

Good luck with the project and all of us here are expecting a full report when you're finished.

A Merry Christmas and a Happy Near Year!

...Jim
#4

For 1st and 2nd RF yes, the primary number of turns is not that important (though I would try to stick reasonably close to original).
For the IF coil (#19) both windings have to be as close as possible to the original as they are part of tuned circuit.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#5

Thank you for your posts.........................

Jim
Spring Lake MI
#6

Jim, here is my thread on restoring one of these. Mike (Morzh) has at least one thread on his also. http://philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=8626  Here you can see what I ran into, how I fixed, and some of my mistakes. I too had to redo the RF coil. Some of the links may not work since some things have been moved within the website. Have fun Icon_e_biggrin

Tech section and notebook has some info on this radio too.

If I could find the place called "Somewhere", I could find "Anything" Icon_confused

Tim

Jesus cried out and said, "Whoever believes in me , believes not in me but in him who sent me" John 12:44
#7

                   
Hi guy's and Merry Christmas......had a good Christmas, got the Philco 70 up and running after a recap and  rewound the RF Coil did some cleaning and painting on the chassis.
 The alignment schematic shows three adjustments on the back of chassis but this one has only two. According to the tube configuration this is the early model below B22,000? I can find only one alignment procedure, is there another one. I do have document's from the Chuck at the Philco Repair Bench.
Also the volume seems a little down on distance station's the strong local stations are fine.
 I want to thank all you guy's on this forum and the one's that responded to my post's
Here are some pic's. Do have some work on the cabinet, but I'm over the hump as they say.

Jim
Spring Lake MI
#8

Could it be that you missed the one that has a metal cover over it? It is all the way to the left side of the chassis. This one is covered because, the trimmer has B+ voltage on it.

Steve

M R Radios   C M Tubes
#9

(12-25-2016, 02:12 PM)Steve Davis Wrote:  Could it be that you missed the one that has a metal cover over it? It is all the way to the left side of the chassis. This one is covered because, the trimmer has B+ voltage on it.

Steve
Wow am I losing it thank you so much...........

Jim
Spring Lake MI




Users browsing this thread:
[-]
Recent Posts
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
Hi, there's a lot to consider when designing these circuits so you shouldn't have a lot of concern when replacing caps. ...RodB — 02:03 PM
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
I have ordered and received new caps for this radio and hope I've ordered the correct ones. I tried matching them to the...osanders0311 — 11:35 AM
Philco newbie with P-1891-WA console questions
Hello Jeff , Far as the Electrolytic capacitors go here is a list of parts. that will work . I like using Nichicon and...radiorich — 09:50 PM
Philco newbie with P-1891-WA console questions
Well, I've been stumped at trying to get the first of 11 electrolytic capacitors. I got a schematic and have a list of t...Jeffcon — 07:54 PM
Model 80 Antenna Issue?
Thanks Gary and Rod.  I also found an article in the Philco Repair Bench under Service Hints and Tips, about installi...Hamilton — 12:32 PM
Model 80 Antenna Issue?
Hello Hamilton, here is a little information found in our Philco Radio Library at the bottom of the Home page. Hope it ...GarySP — 11:28 AM
Model 80 Antenna Issue?
I did as you suggested and touching the middle of the volume control did nothing so the coil has to be rewound. Any idea...Hamilton — 10:19 AM
1949 Motorola 5A9M
This would be the second portable in the "other radios" forum where I have a similar one in my collection. I h...Arran — 12:41 AM
Looking for any info: 1977 Ford-Philco Console Hi-Fi Turntable and Radio
Hi PittsburgTost. The record changer looks like a Garrard or BSR (Likely Garrard). The spindles just pull out and pu...MrFixr55 — 11:57 PM
Looking for any info: 1977 Ford-Philco Console Hi-Fi Turntable and Radio
Hello PittsburghToast , Welcome aboard and it looks like gary may have something for you ! now if I dig through my se...radiorich — 11:35 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 1107 online users. [Complete List]
» 1 Member(s) | 1106 Guest(s)
Avatar

>