Posts: 365
Threads: 76
Joined: Oct 2014
City: Winter Haven, FL
Yeah, I saw that. On my missing speaker, the mounting holes are 7 1/2" center to center, same as the speaker I actually have. That speaker measures 6 3/4", so I guess Sparton would call that a 6" speaker. But wouldn't I need to find one with a field coil that measures either 2400Ω or 3700Ω, if not 6100Ω (and center-tapped)?
(This post was last modified: 10-29-2020, 04:30 PM by Patrick.)
Posts: 15,806
Threads: 553
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson, NJ
Look at the before discussion.
You could use any speaker that uses a field coil that takes the same current (or close) as the original speaker. Of course provided that the speaker is the type you are looking for (full range or woofer?) and fits the size.
Then you simply add resistors to make up for the divider that you need.
People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
Posts: 365
Threads: 76
Joined: Oct 2014
City: Winter Haven, FL
Like you said, I can measure the current needs using a 6100Ω resistor, providing everything else works ( I just recapped and rewired it), but how am I to determine "any speaker that uses a field coil that takes the same current (or close) as the original speaker" on a speaker that I find on ebay?
Posts: 15,806
Threads: 553
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson, NJ
Well....in the older times you would find datasheets.
Today...well, I would find out what radio the speaker from and then do that same calculation, using the dropout across the coil and its resistance which often enough is either shown or known if asked on the forums.
If the speaker works at lower currents but is big and powerful enough, a shunting divider would do taking part of the current while providing the needed biases for the tubes. Higher currents....nothing much could be done; you could use them but you will loose the efficiency of that speaker.
People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
Posts: 365
Threads: 76
Joined: Oct 2014
City: Winter Haven, FL
Found this speaker on ebay. Looks like field coil is 720 Ω fed with 320V. Would this work?
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/dcjP9Br.jpg]
Posts: 15,806
Threads: 553
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson, NJ
Patrick,
It is not fed with 320V. It is fed with the difference between the voltages on its left end (let's take your number, 320V) and right end (I do not know but let's say 270V) which then would make for 50V. So you need to know the voltage at the centertap of the audio xfmr to see what voltage it is, and then by dividing it by 720 Ohm you will know the current.
People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
Posts: 365
Threads: 76
Joined: Oct 2014
City: Winter Haven, FL
So the left end is connected to Pin 8 of the 5Y3, which is 320V. The right end, is connected to pin 4 of the 6F6, which is 235V. That gives us 85V. Divided by 720 gives us 118 milliamps. Since we need a speaker that only draws about 35 ma, this one would not work.
Are my calculations correct?
Posts: 15,806
Threads: 553
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson, NJ
Yes it seems correct if your numbers are right.
Has to be a fairly warm field coil with 10W dissipation.
The current seems a bit high, but even if it is 90mA it is still too high.
Your coil is the load type, not the filter type.
So look amongst the speakers whose coils are not part of filtering, but are loads on the B+, those are higher resistance and are likelier to fit your application.
People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
(This post was last modified: 10-31-2020, 10:18 PM by morzh.)
Posts: 365
Threads: 76
Joined: Oct 2014
City: Winter Haven, FL
Got it. Thanks for all your help. I believe I'm beginning to understand, now. I'll keep looking.
Users browsing this thread: 5 Guest(s)
|
Recent Posts
|
IF can wire size and Rubber mounts?
|
Thanks to both members for your help regarding wire and tuner mtg supports. regards--Johngeorgetownjohn — 09:33 AM |
Hickok AC51 tube tester
|
Note that no power cord, power switch, or power transformer switch are shown. That (along with my experience with full s...DaleHCook — 07:09 AM |
IF can wire size and Rubber mounts?
|
A pair of wire strippers can give you an idea of what the existing gauge of the wire leads are in the IF can, I think it...Arran — 06:07 AM |
My last cabinet for this year
|
Hello Dan,
That is really beautiful what great looking radio you have !
I have friends who live in Calgary and the wea...radiorich — 01:51 AM |
Philco Predicta Siesta picture over time getting dimmer
|
I found that the wire insulation was burnt.
The fly back needs corona dope!
Why would someone put that there?Platinumblonde36 — 01:09 AM |
Philco Predicta Siesta picture over time getting dimmer
|
This is what it looked like beforePlatinumblonde36 — 01:01 AM |
Philco Predicta Siesta picture over time getting dimmer
|
Platinumblonde36 — 12:58 AM |
Philco Predicta Siesta picture over time getting dimmer
|
Platinumblonde36 — 12:57 AM |
Philco Predicta Siesta picture over time getting dimmer
|
I'm finding some strange things in my set and for the most part it's also original, so I need to start going over everyt...Platinumblonde36 — 12:55 AM |
12' Philco
|
Not anymore Mike.
Andre The Giant
Born: May 19, 1946, Coulommiers, France
Died: Jan 28, 1993 (46 years), Paris, Fran...RodB — 11:53 PM |
Who's Online
|
There are currently 4995 online users. [Complete List] » 2 Member(s) | 4993 Guest(s)
|
|
|
|