Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Model 38-17, Code 121 schematic
#1

I've recently acquired a nearly perfect Model 38-17. The chassis is clean and the wood case is nearly perfect. I've noted that there is no listing of the 38-17 in Nostalgia Air or in Ron's "Philco Radio 1928-1942" bible. I believe electrically this is a 38-15.

I'm in the process of replacing caps and out-of-tolerance resistors and have run into a minor problem. The 38-15 schematic has both detector diodes connected together. My 38-17 has them separated with one dedicated to developing the AVC signal. From other schematics, I can guess the resistor and capacitor values for the AVC circuit but I would like to get the actual schematic, if possible.

Any suggestions for obtaining a schematic that matches my radio?

Thanks for your help.

Don
#2

The schematic can be found here:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philco_38_17t38_1.html
#3

The RM schematic is the 38-15 schematic.

I don't recall ever seeing a 38-17 schematic or service bulletin. As you stated, the 38-15 is basically the same.

You will find better info here, and higher resolution, than that found at RM - and you don't have to pay for it, either.
https://philcoradio.com/library/download...%20291.pdf

The same change in the 2nd detector circuit you described was also made to later production models of the 38-15. That change is described on page 22 of the Philco Changes in Models document, which you may download here:
https://philcoradio.com/phorum/attachment.php?aid=799

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#4

The schematic can be found here:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philco_38_17t38_1.html
#5

Again, what Radiomuseum has is the 38-15 schematic. Look at it closely, at the bottom. It clearly states, "Fig. 4 - Schematic Diagram, Model 38-15 (emphasis mine).

I even went to the trouble of downloading it - look closely at the bottom of the picture below:

   

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#6

Thank you Ron, based on what I see on my 38-17, I concluded that the 38-10 schematic matched my radio for the 75 detector circuit. Your reference to page 22 of the Philco Changes in Models document confirms this.

As always, you guys are great at pointing us less experienced in the right direction.

Don




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
Thanks for the info guys. I always wondered why the use of mica. Now I know.dconant — 01:52 PM
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
Most common plastics have a dielectric constant in the 3-4 range whereas mica is around 6. This means that even if you w...Steve D — 01:46 PM
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
It is acceptable but not desirable. Plastic is not an approved cap dielectric, and even though a reasonably thick piece...morzh — 11:52 AM
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
I have a question about the mica sheets. I thought I saw somewhere on the Phorum where someone used thin plastic report ...dconant — 10:44 AM
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
Yes, you should carefully remove the mica sheets from the trimmers otherwise you risk trapping foreign material in the t...RodB — 10:34 AM
American Bosch Model 802 auto radio
Hi Joe, Thank you again. The American Bosch Model 634A has the same tube lineup as my Model 802 and the parts layout dia...Antipodal — 03:09 AM
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
hello everyone, I know it has been a while since I have posted about this radio but finally got chance work on it . I ...radiorich — 02:45 AM
Rusty Tuning Condenser
You could soak the fins in vinegar. You have to be careful if any pot metal is involved because the vinegar will dissolv...RodB — 09:20 PM
Rusty Tuning Condenser
Hello, I have a Philco 91 where the tuning condenser fins are rusty. I magnet sticks to them so they can't be aluminium....dconant — 05:50 PM
American Bosch Model 802 auto radio
I’ve found six United Bosch auto radio’s with the same 6-tube line-up as the 802, on NostalgiaAir. They are models 150, ...Joe Rossi — 02:52 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 3232 online users. [Complete List]
» 2 Member(s) | 3230 Guest(s)
AvatarAvatar

>