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91H Code 126 Restore
#1

Greetings Philco Phans.

After about a year since I introduced myself with an incoming Philco 91H, Code 126 it is finally time to see what I’ve gotten myself into.

   

As mentioned in my introductory topic I am not new to vintage radios but this is the oldest and first Philco I’ve had in the shop.  The information I have found on this site has been extremely helpful and after learning about the bakelite blocks and condenser banks I’m ready to assemble a list of parts needed.

At first look it appears to be unmolested but I have seen a few things that make me think it may have been in the shop sometime in its life.  The transformer is HUGE!

My plan is to first replace the electrolytics, check the input transformer for proper continuity before applying any power using a dim-bulb tester.

-> The electrolytic capacitors
- are both 6uf 400v, P/N 4916 in the schematic but are different cans with a 8095 on one and the other, which appears to be copper, the label peeled off at one time - I suspect the shorter silver one is a replacement
-  I plan on using 6.8uf 450v as replacements
-> The Bakelite Blocks and Metal-cased condensers
- there are nine of them and will heat to remove the tar but is it recommended to do this with the metal-cased condensers?
- I plan on using safety caps in the one connected to the input lines
-> Line cord
- This looks to be original and in good shape but I think the plug has been replaced, is it SOP to replace line cords?
- What would the original plug look like?
-> Cleaning tuning dial
- It’s quite yellowed but unbroken.  I do not see any way to remove it without disassembly of the tuning capacitor so will some gentle cleaning lighten it up.
-> Speaker cloth
- I found a good match at Radio Grill Cloth, #1 looks to be a close match

Well, that’s enough for now.  I’m hoping the shadow meter works but that will come much later.


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Nick
Yorktown VA
vwradios.com
#2

Hi Nick,

will heat to remove the tar but is it recommended to do this with the metal-cased condensers? 

They have a cardboard liner inside so sometimes you can just put the innards out after sniping the gnd wire. Or the tar will glue the cardboard to the tin.

Cord and plug

The last cloth cord I got was from amazom. I think it was listed in the lamp/lighting section. 7' long and abt $7 has a modern polarize plug. You can easily clip it off. The old skool plugs are commonly referred to as acorn plugs. As a side note Philco used cloth cords till '37.

Cleaning tuning dial 

I would use Qtips and odorless mineral spirits. Never use water or soap&water. This will remove the print from the dial.

I’m hoping the shadow meter works

Generally the big issue with the sm is the internal coil being open. Easy to measure the coil resistance which should be abt 1k or so. If it's 100k you'll need some 40G magnet wire a 3" 1/4 20 bolt and nut. Oh some sets have a carbon resistor in parallel w/the coil so that needs to be out of the circuit to get an accurate reading. Said resistor is on the chassis not inside the meter housing.

When my pals were reading comic books
I was down in the basement in my dad's
workshop. Perusing his Sam's Photofoacts
Vol 1-50 admiring the old set and trying to
figure out what all those squiggly meant.
Circa 1966
Now I think I've got!

Terry
#3

Well I'm making good progress.

All the bakelite blocks have been recapped.  I found that using a heat gun and skinny screwdriver allowed me to push everything out easily.  Same goes with the condenser cans but removing the block and replacing the caps in the tone control took a bit of trial and error.

So now I have a working audio section and have started working back through the IF and RF sections.

Is there a way to disassemble, without breaking, the volume control to clean it out?  It's pretty scratchy.


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Nick
Yorktown VA
vwradios.com
#4

It does not require taking apart.
Find an opening, any gap that would lead inside, where the resistive element and the wiper are; take the Deoxit F5 (important. Not D5. Never use contact cleaners on pots), which is Fader Lube, and spray inside that gap; then work the wiper. You could repeat it.
Let dry.

Use thereafter.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#5

When it comes to the cloth covered power cords, if they are not frayed, and are flexible, and if I can bend one without hearing any cracking noises, I reuse them. It's only 120 volts, and there isn't any real amperage being drawn through them, maybe 1.5 amps on a big set, cord was rated for 10 amps when new. If you want a more suitable plug for it keep your eyes open in the second hand stores, or in a junk plie, for a cap style plug on something. I've ended up with them from random pieces of junk, appliances, and old lamps, they sold them in hardware stores for years, probably well into the 1980s.
As for cleaning the dial it really depends on the year, the 1936-38 ones had a water soluble ink on them, on a 1932 model I'm not sure. The one on my Philco 60L was NOT water soluble, neither was the dial on the model 96, I always test them in a spot where it it will not be seen, like the first line on the low end of the dial, around where the eyelets are, a little water on a q tip, if some of it comes off you can always draw it back in again with a fine tip marking pen.
Regards
Arran
#6

As I was studying this schematic I was wondering what does this dotted line means?  I haven't traced it out yet.

An option?
Its purpose?  An AVC line?


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Nick
Yorktown VA
vwradios.com
#7

Thanks Arran,

I'm convinced the power cord is good but have a nice repro plug for it. Would it be prudent to add a fuse?

As to the dial, I have received a very nice repro from RadioDaze and will be replacing the original when the radio is fully operational.

Nick
Yorktown VA
vwradios.com
#8

Just to make it more confusing here is another model 91 schematic that doesn't show parts with dotted lines in that spot, but shows parts with dotted lines in another spot. https://philcoradio.com/library/index.ph...chematics/ . Does your set have a code number?
Getting back to the power cord I suppose you could add a fuse in series with one leg of the power transformer primary, use a fuse block rated for 120 volts, that you can anchor to the chassis, and not an automotive fuse holder. There was a guy on Y.T that used the latter years ago, he used these clunky plastic inline fuse holders with thick pigtails attached, which were never rated for mains voltage, not to mention they looked stupid. If I ever ran into that in a radio it would be clipped out and tossed.
Regards
Arran




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