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Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration

Hello Joseph,
That looks great only thing I would make sure is that screw has good clean area where it contacts the ground lug.

Sincerely Richard

Excellent point! Thank you, sir.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906

Joseph,

Yes you could do that too. But why did you choose to buy these conspicuously large capacitors? 10nF Y2 caps should be about half the diameter those in your picture, unless you kept the leads long.
I never had them protrude much at all.
In fact, in my article on this, I restuffed 0.01uF Y2 caps; you could see in the pictures they are quite inside.

   

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.

You’re right, yours are much smaller. I must admit that I ordered these without much regard to size. I ordered them back in August, before I had learned that the Bakelite housing could be restuffed. These are X1Y1 rated, but I’ve since learned that I can use a lesser safety rating. 

These are also 0.01 μF capacitors. Likely much larger than a 10 nF capacitor. Even so, I am surprised by their size.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906

0.01uF and 10nF are the same capacitances Icon_lol

Its the rating. Yours are rated to 500V and the Y2 are up to 300V. Obviously that dictates smaller size.
Plus you will likely pay more for the caps with more stringent rating.
Y2 is quite enough.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.

Silly me, you are right! I read and wrote nF, but was thinking pF.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906

Hello joseph,
Here is the one that I use made by Vishay part no. VY2103M59Y5VS63V0.
Anyway both Digi-Key and Mouser carry it.

far as Mouser if you buy 10 they are 24 cents each.

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vis...iPhw%3D%3D


Sincerely Richard


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Thanks, everyone! I suppose I’ll keep these installed since I have them and they do fit. But moving forward I’ll know the secret!

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906

Joseph, the Moyer Electronics I’m familiar with is in Pottsville, PA. Only a half hour from me. My dad used to to buy from them in the 50s, I don’t know how long they’re in business but it’s a long time. I needed an IF transformer for a 50s Philco I was working on  and they didn’t have an actual OEM Philco but did have a replacement, I think it was a Meissner part.

Ron

Bendix 0626.      RCA 8BX5.   RCA T64
Philco 41-250.    Philco49-500
GE 201.             Philco 39-25
Motorola 61X13. Philco 46-42        Crosley 52TQ
Philco 37-116.    Philco 70
AK 35                Philco 46-350
Philco 620B.       Zenith Transoceanic B-600
Philco 60B.         Majestic 50
Philco 52-944.    AK 84

Morning, Ron! Yep, that’s the Moyer I spoke with. They did say that they researched for any off-brand equivalents but did not find one. I figured as much. The 32-4074 is really quite strange, because the AM and FM outputs are combined. There’s only one output path, whereas most AM/FM detector coils have two switchable outputs.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906

Rich

Those are exact same I used before.
I just recently bought these from Mouser.

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It is exact same diameter and also X1Y2.

Not sure why, but I think maybe the ones you and I used before were temporarily unavailable.
Now that I am looking at Mouser, this one I bought now is unavailable.

But I just bought 10pcs to replenish the dwindling supply.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.

Hello Joseph,
I would leave them they are just fine !
Man Moyer Electronics brings back old memories I did not know they were still around .
Mike that is too funny I guess we think alike .

Sincerely Richard

Joseph,

Yes, Rich is right, they are just fine to be left in there.
Also, what I do when I re-stuff these specific ones, I kinda lead-form them, pressing against the walls so the disks, where the leads exit the circle, touch the top of the backelite block (gently so, trying not to crack the potting of the leads): this lower the profile slightly.
Plus the ferrule the screw goes through also raises the block some 3 mm or so above the chassis.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.

I may have just found the IF transformer. There is a person on FB Marketplace who is selling a 46-480 in need of some restoration. They were asking $150 but agreed on $75. 

Here’s my thought. I do not need the entire radio, and I do not need to spend $75. I merely need the IF transformer. But, is anyone else here needing any parts for a 46-480 restoration? I could part out the tubes, the potentiometers, the sockets, the other two IF transformers, the cabinet, the knobs, the output transformer, and so on. It has a band selection wafer switch which might be useful to someone as well.

If and only if I can find enough people in need of the remaining parts, I may just go ahead and buy the console for $75. I could recover some of the money by selling the unneeded parts.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906

I did run into a guy on the FB Philco Radio Enthusiast page who is searching for the output transformer for a 46-480, so I’ve reached out to him to explain the opportunity and to see if he still needs the part.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906




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