Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

What output transformer will work?
#1

After searching for months for an H-16 speaker for my Philco 144 console. I found an H-29 with the 660 field coil.Now I will need to purchase a single ended O/T . Would a hammond 125d work? This chassis uses the single 42 output tube. Right now I just want to get something so I can safely power up the unit. I recapped & rebuilt the bakelites months ago and put on shelf till now. Thanks for advice.
#2

What is the voice coil impedance? It looks like it is 1.1 Ohm.

The Push-pull transformer has finer grained impedance matching; unfortunately 125 SE series does not. The highest you will get at 1.1 Ohm voice coil is 2.5K Ohm primary impedance and 42 tube needs 7K Ohm.

Also Hammond SE is very expensive.
I used this with my Zenith

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OT8SE-Tube-Outpu...2321364cc4

It's half price.

However, this is not a match either.

What is exact voice coil impedance?
#3

Voice coil impedeance is 1.25 I figured I might have trouble finding exact match. I was hoping to get ideas on what would work for power up of unit for now, that won't damage anything. I plan to keep looking for the original speaker with correct tranny. Thanks morzh
#4

You can use just about any output transformer just to get it to work. It certainly won't do any damage to the set. About the only thing that will happen is that you might get lower output power or higher distortion because of the mismatch, but that's probably acceptable until you find the right transformer.
#5

The transformers like those won't damage anything, they simply will not correctly transfer the power.
#6

Thanks morzh & Mondial. I went ahead and ordered the one you used in your Zenith morzh. Just wanted to ask the experts first. I did figure what ever I got that wasn't exact match would sound bad. But at least I can test some of the work I did so far with out worrying about burning out the output tube or worse.
#7

Did you see if the mechanically the transformer is a good fity? It is not terribly important though.
#8

I have not measured the distance btwn. the rivets yet but it looks close to the new one. I have read that you have to be very careful not to get any shavings in the voice coil if you drill them out.
#9

Yeah....but where's the voice coil and where are those rivets. You have to really try. Though nothing's impossible Icon_smile
#10

The O/T is on the speaker frame and with it out in the open should'nt be too much trouble to drill out.
#11

Generally speaking it's the primary to secondary ratio that's more important then the primary impedance, that's why those universal output type transformers have multiple taps on the secondary side but not the primary side. The #42 has the same plate impedance as a 6F6 and is fairly close to a 6V6/6BQ5, and close enough to a 6L6, so a salvaged transformer for any of these will work fairly well. What will not work well is an output transformer intended for a type #41, 6K6, or a 6AQ5, those are way off the beam. The only wild card is the weird voice coil impedance of some Philco speakers, most are either 4 or 8 Ohms impedance not 1.1 Ohms, that is if the 1.1 Ohms is an impedance and not a DC resistance.
Regards
Arran
#12

Thanks Arran, That 1.25 I quoted in earliar post I got off the philco speakers compatibility spread sheet that was on the philco phorum. It was under the voice coil impedance columb. There is also an out. trans. pri. DC ohm columb. that says 260 ohm. which is the original o/t .




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Restoring Philco 38-14
Well, I climbed down off of that fence and decided to proceed with restoration. I did experiment with the speaker. I n...morzh — 03:49 PM
Philco 71LZ chair side
lol not pondering it’s been mine for at least an hour now ?.  At a local car show with my Jeep will load it up and take ...slford310 — 01:33 PM
Philco 71LZ chair side
If he only wants $40.00 what are you doing still pondering over it? Go get it! Take care and BE HEALTHY! GaryGarySP — 01:29 PM
Philco 370LZ
Just took a closer look at it.  It is a 370LZ not the 71LZ.slford310 — 12:58 PM
Clear Schematic for 41-255
Thank you, Dale. Please take your time. I tried cleaning up a scan in PhotoShop and it helped a little, but after 1.5 hr...RossH — 12:38 PM
Philco 71LZ chair side
He only wants 40 so I think I’ll have to buy itslford310 — 12:13 PM
Clear Schematic for 41-255
Ross - I have an original 1941 Yearbook, but it will be at least a few days before I can get it out of storage and ma...DaleHCook — 11:57 AM
Philco 71LZ chair side
Are you sure that it is a model 71LZ and not the previous years' 370 Lazyboy? Production for both models appears to be 1...Arran — 11:32 AM
Philco 71LZ chair side
What do you guys think is the max I should pay for this??  Always wanted a chair side radio.  slford310 — 10:52 AM
Clear Schematic for 41-255
Hello Ross, Yes, I have had good luck with using my Photoshop in the past to improve schematics and other documents !. ...radiorich — 10:30 AM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>