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Help ID parts Canadian Model 91H
#1

as stated in the title i have a model 91H canadian, or from what i can tell... Is there any difference in the US/ Can models? one page I came across would not give info to people asking about canadian models... whats with that?

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From what i can tell its a 1932 model 91 highboy, with model 91 tuner with twin speakers.

I cannot find a part numbers for the twin speakers, there is a 11" and a 7" wired together with a 5 wire plug. they are ruined.

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SEPT 30 1932

Heres some other pics..

The good... it lights up. nice cabinet.. er.. 75% needs work

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The Bad... No nobs, speaker mesh, dial face, speakers
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Wondering if it is worth fixing up to restored condition, or if i should just use the nice cabinet for a custom PC case.
#2

thought it might be neat for you guys to see this too.

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Its interesting that this sticker above, from inside the case is dated for september 1 1932, and the manufacture date on the speakers were september 30 1932.

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#3

Hi

If you can deal with the many issues that cabinet has, it could become a very beautiful radio!

There are differences in USA and Canadian Philcos, although those differences were very minor until the mid to late 1930s, by which time Philco Products Ltd. (Canada) was producing some sets that were identical to their USA counterparts, and some that were radically different.

The main difference in the early models was the use of a metal tag on Canadian models such as yours, where the USA models had a paper label, black ink printed on gold-color paper.

I have a 91 chassis that came from a 91D cabinet. The chassis I have looks like yours, save for the fact that mine is a later version that has individual cylindrical shields over the front end tubes instead of one large shield over all three (RF, det-osc, and IF tubes).

Your 91H looks like this USA 71H:
http://www.philcoradio.com/gallery/1933a.htm#g

The speakers in your set could be reconed, which could be somewhat expensive but for a neat set like this, would be worth the effort and expense, I think. But that would depend on whether or not the cabinet can be restored.

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#4

The silver lining in the dismal condition of the speakers is, now you do not have to worry about the cones and can scrape and clean the heck out of them before placing the cones back.
#5

Regarding the dire warning label on the cabinet:

At that time was Canada set up like the UK where you had to buy a radio license in order to operate a receiver? Was this money used to fund the CBC like they did for the BBC in England?

Just speculating as I don't know the history of broadcasting in Canada.

Herb S.
#6

The CBC did not exist prior to 1937, so I'm not sure what the "License Fee" was supposedly for prior to that time. They abolished the radio license scam in the early 50s in part because few people seem to have bothered buying them. Why the limeys continue to pay fees to keep the beeb alive I will never know, they have had private TV networks since the mid 1950s. There may have been some electrical differences between a Canadian Philco 91H and a U.S 91H but they were probably minor changes to meet electrical safety standards. Also there may not have been as many revisions of the Canadian built 91s as opposed to the U.S built 91s, but I don't think they amended the circuits as much with Code # this or that back then. I have the Canadian Philco 91 service data and I am positive that it's pretty well the same as the U.S 91 electrically. It's a fairly decent radio actually, with a push-pull power output amplifier stage using a pair of #42s, so quite loud. It's an updated version of the Philco 90 circuit using more "Modern" 6.3 volt tubes.
As for the speakers they are not ruined, the 8'' one can be reconed and the 10'' repaired by careful hands. As for the missing bits like the escutcheon that's a little more difficult, as is the cabinet repair. The cabinet may be one thing that is different from the U.S built 91H as Canadian Philco quite often used regional cabinet makers rather then making them in house.
Also for a P.C case you could always find an empty console radio cabinet, there are plenty of those to go around with no chassis to match up with on craigslist and at yard sales.
Regards
Arran




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