Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Philco 91-221 antena transformer primary
#1

Looks like this puppy has a burned up primary (lightning strike perhaps) Anyone have any idea how many turns on this? How critical?
Also wondering why there is a resistor paralleling the coil.
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel...029658.pdf

All opinions welcomed.
#2

Ah!

I think someone decided to use an outlet Hot as an antenna.
Lightening is also a possibility.

I dealt with this exact problem in the Emerson I restored this summer.

I was able to count my turns though when unwinding the coil.
It is bakes so badly you are not able to try to unwind it and count the turns? I you are off by a few turns it does not matter much.
In my case it was about 200 turns.
#3

The Philco Repair Bench site suggests dragging a safety pin over the windings and listening for 'clicks.' It's worked well for me, even on completely disintegrated coils.

I don't know exactly what the resistor does electrically, but from my experience with crystal radios, about 1k stops low frequency AC hum from getting to the detector. Just a thought.
#4

Thanks for the reply's.
Tried counting the turns, apparently somewhere in excess of 220, guess about 250. Lot of it came off in pieces, wood core is charcoal. Right now thinking about trying a similar looking coil from a donor 60 antenna transformer with the green disease on both solenoid windings. The coil I need was mounted inside the tube and looks good.
#5

The number is plausible, as I said in my cae it was close, as I remember it, 230 or so
#6

You can use a plastic sewing machine bobbin as a form to wind a new one. See my post in this thread http://www.philcoradio.com/phorum/showth...p?tid=8833

Steve

M R Radios   C M Tubes
#7

Just an update, the coil from the Philco 60 antenna xfmr (along with the always needed oscillator cathode winding rewind), and everything is working great. Interesting set.
#8

Well, praise the Lord and the spare chassis!
#9

In answer to your question about why a resistor is bridged across the coil or primary of the RF input transformer, this is usually done to broaden the bandwidth of a coil/transformer assembly. Sometimes coils or transformers have high enough Q that they tend to tune rather sharply to a small range of frequencies. A resistor can be bridged across the coil or transformer winding and the result it a much broader bandwidth. On an RF input, this helps keep the signal sensitivity from low to high frequencies pretty nearly equal as the radio is tuned across the dial.

Joe




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Studebaker/Philco AC-2687 car radio
Just speculating of course, but you could probably find another transformer from another car radio of the same era, pref...Arran — 09:00 PM
Studebaker/Philco AC-2687 car radio
Hello I am new here and I could use some advice. I am working on my 1955 Stude/Philco car radio and have determined tha...Pdouglaski — 06:43 PM
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
Thank you MrFix55 and GarySP with helping with the Antenna, for now I am placing the Antenna on the back burner and work...osanders0311 — 02:24 PM
The list of my radio & TV collection!
Yes, Michael. But strangely enough, I managed to keep the original veneer. I must admit that I don't really like it, so ...RadioSvit — 02:21 PM
The list of my radio & TV collection!
Good radio. I bet there was a lot of veneer fixing.morzh — 02:16 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
>> it is because I am retired and a little demented. You have just the right amount of it. No perfectly sane p...morzh — 02:14 PM
The list of my radio & TV collection!
Old Zenith 5S-29 tube radio. First turn-on after repair and reception quality testing. Demonstration of the operation of...RadioSvit — 01:27 PM
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
Welcome to the Phorum, osanders0311!  Regardless how far you intend to restore this set, first priority should be replac...GarySP — 11:51 AM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Joseph, it is because I am retired and a little demented. My problem is that I wanted to own a collection that spans th...MrFixr55 — 11:29 AM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Wow, here I am with only two restored radios. I’ve got to boost those numbers! If you can’t run with the big dogs, you m...jrblasde — 10:04 AM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 344 online users. [Complete List]
» 1 Member(s) | 343 Guest(s)
Avatar

>