Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Philco Model 16B (baby grand)
#1

Hello all,

I have been looking for schematics for the Philco 16B. I have found plenty of information on the Model 16 (of various codes and the model 16A, but nothing on the 16B. Can anyone tell me what the differences are between the 16 and 16B?

I have had this radio a few years and went through the recap and resistor checks a few years ago.  I can not find any schematics on the 16B and may have used the 16 and what was already there as a guide in the process.  I would just like to make sure I have the proper documentation on this radio before jumping into it again.

Thanks for looking.

Chris h

Chris H
N9WHH
#2

I found something at the link below:

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philco_16b1_16.html.  Looks like there are 4 versions.

If you click on the image you can download it. I believe you have to be a member to do this.
#3

The Suffix indicates the cabinet style. The "B" suffix would be the "Baby Grand" (cathedral or tombstone). The chassis are the same for all suffixes except for the 16X (console) which has a slightly larger power transformer and a 5Z3 rectifier tube rather than a type 80.

Steve

M R Radios   C M Tubes
#4

Thanks Bill. I had not thought of the radio museum site, as I am not a member. I appreciate you looking into it though.

Chris

(01-04-2015, 01:52 PM)Bill Bacco Wrote:  I found something at the link below:

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philco_16b1_16.html.  Looks like there are 4 versions.

If you click on the image you can download it.  I believe you have to be a member to do this.

Chris H
N9WHH
#5

Thanks Steve. After I posted I got to thinking that it may be a cabinet style variation.  (I have to admit that I am not real familiar with the way Philco did things, but am learning.)  I sure appreciate it though.  Now I feel a little better about what I have already done.

Chris


(01-04-2015, 03:16 PM)Steve Davis Wrote:  The Suffix indicates the cabinet style. The "B" suffix would be the "Baby Grand" (cathedral or tombstone). The chassis are the same for all suffixes except for the 16X (console) which has a slightly larger power transformer and a 5Z3 rectifier tube rather than a type 80.

Steve

Chris H
N9WHH
#6

you may want to look into ordering a set of schematics from Chuck Schwarks site. for $7.00 you get a complete set of schematics, parts listings, alignment instructions etc. I'm working on a 16B myself right now and I ordered a set from him, well worth the money!
Kevin
#7

Thanks Kevin, I have been thinking along those lines. I just ordered a set from him for my Philco 95. I agree it is money well invested.

Chris

Chris H
N9WHH




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Philco Model 80 Transformer resistance
Just forget this number, it is useless anyway. Simply proceed with your project.morzh — 10:08 PM
Philco Model 80 Transformer resistance
My $0.02 is that it is a misprint. I tried to look up the value for the similar 84 and 37-84, and ther is no resistance...MrFixr55 — 09:51 PM
Philco Model 80 Transformer resistance
Thanks for the quick reply! Hmm...well that's good, so what am I seeing that's 1042 ohms on the schematic for the pow...Mike L — 08:46 PM
Philco Model 80 Transformer resistance
The DC resistance of the primary is 8 to 9 Ohm.morzh — 07:54 PM
Philco Model 80 Transformer resistance
I have a feeling the primary winding on the power transformer is bad. My resistance reading on the primary side is 9 ohm...Mike L — 07:48 PM
Rusty Tuning Condenser
I would try Naval Jelly and use a soaked pipe cleaner to get it where it needs to go.RossH — 06:56 PM
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
Hello Dconant , they sold mica to use as a insulator between transistors and their heatsinks too. Rob I will remove th...radiorich — 02:52 PM
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
Thanks for the info guys. I always wondered why the use of mica. Now I know.dconant — 01:52 PM
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
Most common plastics have a dielectric constant in the 3-4 range whereas mica is around 6. This means that even if you w...Steve D — 01:46 PM
38-10T chassis Restoration begins
It is acceptable but not desirable. Plastic is not an approved cap dielectric, and even though a reasonably thick piece...morzh — 11:52 AM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 3276 online users. [Complete List]
» 1 Member(s) | 3275 Guest(s)
Avatar

>