Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Model 43 Alignment Issues
#1

Hi Folks,

I have finished re-capping my Model 43, and finally got around to the alignment.  I followed the directions in the Service Guide, basically.  I've run into a few issues which I can't figure out!  Your comments will be very much appreciated.  I am using a Triplett 3432-A signal generator, and a little frequency counter to fine tune it before I use it, so I'm confident the signal is accurate.  I was told to adjust the dial, with the tuning capacitor plates totally closed, with the pointer flush with the the line at the left end of the dial scale, around 550 KHz.

1)  When I went to adjust the 1400 KHz trimmer for the broadcast band, I couldn't hear the signal generator modulated signal at all.  When I tune between 1300 and 1400 KHz on the broadcast band, the radio goes from static to very quiet, anyway.  I can't find any plates touching on the tuning condenser...  I ended up adjusting the trimmer for maximum volume for a station I found around 1200 KHz.  I didn't know what else to do.

2)  It seemed to take quite a bit of adjusting of the wavetrap trimmer to get minimal output volume at 450 KHz.  Not sure if that bodes ill or not...

3)  I found the 700 KHz signal with the Philco dial set around 750 KHz, and adjusted it there for maximum volume.

4) It's really annoying, but dial settings match up like this with a few stations:

First band:  KFI AM 640 with dial set at 670 KHz
Second band:  a station with frequency 1570 KHz when dial is set to 1650 KHz
Third band:  too noisy to find any stations
Fourth band:  WWV comes in with dial set at 14.6 MHz and 16.4 MHz

Is the situation hopeless?  It's so annoying to have a useless tuning dial...

Thanks!

Jim
#2

A really stupid question, when your pointer is to the left position, is the tuning cap fully meshed? Pointers do move.
A wavetrap means nothing today, no use for it.

Is your counter accurate?

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#3

(04-18-2015, 08:02 PM)morzh Wrote:  Pointers do move.

Not when it's a Model 43, or the vast majority of pre-1939 Philcos - you have to move the dial scale while the pointer remains stationary. The scale must be aligned to the line to the left of 55 on the first band, with the tuning condenser fully meshed.

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#4

(04-18-2015, 10:19 PM)Ron Ramirez Wrote:  The scale must be aligned to the line to the left of 55 on the first band, with the tuning condenser fully meshed.

Well, that was the gist of my lengthy and partly erroneous statement. Icon_lol

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#5

(04-18-2015, 10:19 PM)Ron Ramirez Wrote:  
(04-18-2015, 08:02 PM)morzh Wrote:  Pointers do move.

Not when it's a Model 43, or the vast majority of pre-1939 Philcos - you have to move the dial scale while the pointer remains stationary. The scale must be aligned to the line to the left of 55 on the first band, with the tuning condenser fully meshed.

Thank you, Ron!

Well, yes, my dial scale was adjusted to the line to the left of 55 on the first band.  Yesterday, by tinkering and trial and error, I discovered the source of my "alignment" issues.

The trimmer on the klunky "trimmer/inductor" assembly connected to the top of the antenna transformer housing needed adjusting. 

Adjusting it to almost minimum capacitance resulted in:  1) no more "dead" spots on the dial; 2) perfect match between station frequencies and dial readings. What a relief!

I hope no one will find the following observations "stupid", so I will apologize to the pros in advance for that.  I am not a radio/electronics expert, only very interested in learning more about Philco restoration.

Anyway, that trimmer/inductor assembly was the source of earlier problems during the restoration also.  There were initial issues with buzzing, popping, etc. at various points on the low band.  After a lot of exploration and trial and error, I found that if I soldered a wire between the leads of the inductor portion of the assembly, to short it out, that the popping/buzzing problem disappeared.  I know this may defy logic, but it worked, and continues to work.  Just thought I'd put this out there in case anyone else encounters the problem.

Thanks for your kind attention and assistance!

Jim




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
48-482 rear panel help
Many thanks to all for the responses! No plastic button "covers" on my radio. Ron, thanks for the chapter on...keithchip — 05:53 PM
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
I am back to working on this radio and managed to get a couple of radio stations to come in. But can someone help me to ...osanders0311 — 01:58 PM
48-482 rear panel help
Hi Kettlechip and welcom to the Phorum. The back panel question is interesting. I have quite a few radios that use pow...MrFixr55 — 08:24 AM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Not too much at all! :lol:  Sounds like you’re just dabbling into the hobby!jrblasde — 07:56 AM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Hi Joseph, Fortunately, Ms. Fixr does not read my computer, or she would warn you against coming to me for sanity ch...MrFixr55 — 07:27 AM
48-482 rear panel help
There's a picture of one of the plastic covers in the following thread: I bought a full set of them in 2012 or so fro...klondike98 — 11:15 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Good sanity check! You are correct—the first (as in, the most counterclockwise) position is for the push button presets....jrblasde — 11:05 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Hi Joseph, First, verify that your band selector is in the correct position for what you want to do. I believe tha...MrFixr55 — 10:59 PM
Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
Got my replacement signal generator in the mail today! I was able to finish alignment of the IF section. I’ve got some t...jrblasde — 09:58 PM
The list of my radio & TV collection!
EdHolland. Glad you liked it. Thanks for the supportRadioSvit — 05:24 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 1488 online users. [Complete List]
» 1 Member(s) | 1487 Guest(s)
Avatar

>