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Philco 50 (Nathan's)
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Lol - I used to do something like that when I was a kid. Put a low ohm resistor in an switched outlet - then POP!
That was great until I tripped the circuit breaker and got scared. Had to explain it to Dad.  Icon_redface

As for really determining the limit, here's what Ohmite says about their resistors:

The wattage rating of resistors, as established under specified standard
conditions, is defined as the “Free Air Rating” (“Full Rating” or
“Maximum Power Rating”).
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The relation of the “Free Air Watt Rating” of tubular type, vitreous
enameled resistors to the physical size, is to be set at such a
figure that when operated at their rated watts, the temperature rise
of the hottest spot shall not exceed 300°C (540°F) as measured by
a thermocouple when the temperature of the surrounding air does
not exceed 40°C (104°F). The temperature is to be measured at
the hottest point of a two-terminal resistor suspended in free still air
space with at least one foot of clearance to the nearest object, and
with unrestricted circulation of air.


Yikes that's hot!

I guess there are really two questions:

1. How much power can a repro resistor dissipate before it hits 100°C (under the same conditions as Ohmite lists)?
2. How much power does a given resistor actually need to dissipate?

The easy answer to #2 would be whatever the rating of the original is - but I'd hazard a guess that many (especially small wattage ones) were just selected based on availability. I did a quick search for several 1/4W Philco part numbers in the service bulletins but didn't see them show up until around 1934 or so. It's just a rough guess, but maybe Philco was just using 1/2W resistors by default in 1931 when this model 50 was made.

Of course we could get a real-life number by measuring the voltage drop across a given resistor and then calculating P = V^2 / R. But we still don't know how much is too much because of question #1.

Anyway, I think I'm going to stick with the "works-for-me" approach - but with a few caveats:
  • Don't make reproduction resistors for higher wattage parts
  • Burn in (hopefully not literally!) any radio for a while before calling it done (probably a good idea anyway)


Messages In This Thread
Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-19-2016, 09:37 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-19-2016, 09:42 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by klondike98 - 12-19-2016, 10:10 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-20-2016, 12:10 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-20-2016, 01:02 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Radioroslyn - 12-20-2016, 01:06 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Radioroslyn - 12-20-2016, 01:02 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-20-2016, 01:05 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Radioroslyn - 12-20-2016, 01:09 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-20-2016, 01:16 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-20-2016, 01:34 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-20-2016, 01:47 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by klondike98 - 12-20-2016, 09:08 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by TV MAN - 12-20-2016, 11:40 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by morzh - 12-20-2016, 12:54 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-20-2016, 02:00 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Ron Ramirez - 12-20-2016, 03:31 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-20-2016, 04:43 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by TV MAN - 12-20-2016, 09:39 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-20-2016, 10:28 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by morzh - 12-21-2016, 12:51 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-21-2016, 01:30 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-21-2016, 01:47 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-21-2016, 01:54 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by klondike98 - 12-21-2016, 10:21 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by morzh - 12-21-2016, 12:02 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by TV MAN - 12-21-2016, 01:05 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by morzh - 12-21-2016, 02:07 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-22-2016, 01:59 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-22-2016, 02:09 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-23-2016, 01:49 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by morzh - 12-23-2016, 09:16 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Ron Ramirez - 12-23-2016, 09:23 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by klondike98 - 12-23-2016, 09:48 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by TV MAN - 12-23-2016, 11:21 AM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-23-2016, 02:07 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Ron Ramirez - 12-23-2016, 06:39 PM
RE: Philco 50 (Nathan's) - by Nathan Slingerland - 12-23-2016, 08:17 PM



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