Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12, 2025) x

Thread Closed

40-180 Voltage High
#12

Appearances of the flat plastic capacitor packages can be deceiving. There were paper capacitors and mica capacitors that were in similar flat packages. The way to tell them apart is that the unreliable paper capacitors had capacitance values in the microfarad range. They should be replaced with modern caps. Mica or silver mica capacitors might look similar, but the capacitance would be in the micro-micro farad (picofarad) range. These are usually pretty reliable, though I have found a very few bad ones.

A couple of years ago, I posted a question about how to tell these two types of capacitors apart, and one of the moderators replied that Philco never used the molded plastic paper capacitor packages, so all caps of that type are actually mica. The capacitance value is also definitive. If all else fails, refer to the parts list. If it says "mica" or "silver mica" it most likely doesn't need replacement.

Philco used mica capacitors in other package types, typically large squares or rectangles covered in wax. Sometimes there were two different caps in one of these packages. A 42-355 I recently worked on had two of these big wax-covered mica capacitors in the FM circuit. On both, the wax was cracked and had begun to separate, so I figured they were on their way out and replaced them. When I had them out of the radio, I measured the capacitance and found they were both very close to their nominal value in spite of the appearance of the wax. Just for fun I chipped all the wax off one to see what was inside, and the capacitance hardly changed at all.

I usually replace micas if I have to desolder them anyway to change another component or wire, but otherwise I leave them alone. It is hard to measure picofarad caps unless they are out of the radio because capacitance of the meter leads can vary quite a bit depending on how you run them. I have a meter with little push terminals for the capacitor leads right on the body of the meter, and I get consistent readings from that. Once I have a mica cap all the way out of the radio to make the measurement, sometimes it just seems wiser to replace it, even if capacitance is pretty close to nominal.

John Honeycutt


Messages In This Thread
40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 03-29-2010, 05:20 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by DeckApe - 03-30-2010, 09:36 AM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 03-30-2010, 10:48 AM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by rghines1 - 03-30-2010, 05:48 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 03-30-2010, 07:18 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by rghines1 - 03-31-2010, 04:58 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 03-31-2010, 10:32 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 04-04-2010, 07:16 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by rghines1 - 04-05-2010, 08:47 AM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 04-05-2010, 07:34 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by exray - 04-05-2010, 10:40 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Raleigh - 04-05-2010, 10:59 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by exray - 04-05-2010, 11:26 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by codefox1 - 04-06-2010, 02:12 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 04-06-2010, 05:08 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 04-20-2010, 05:47 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 04-26-2010, 05:36 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Ron Ramirez - 04-26-2010, 05:51 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by denver - 04-26-2010, 07:28 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 04-30-2010, 01:35 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by exray - 05-01-2010, 02:36 AM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 05-07-2010, 11:03 AM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by codefox1 - 05-08-2010, 10:45 AM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Raleigh - 05-12-2010, 02:09 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 05-12-2010, 08:06 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 05-12-2010, 08:06 PM
Re: 40-180 Voltage High - by Bruce C - 05-12-2010, 08:06 PM



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Philco 71 Code 125
Hello,  I am in need of a schematic for this radio. Mine has the three separate circular tube shields and a shadow me...dconant — 08:06 AM
Stromberg Carlson 1500 Squeal
And life just keeps getting more complicated.dconant — 07:57 AM
54C Complete Teardown/Rebuild
Hello Roy, here is this one sincerely Richardradiorich — 12:45 AM
54C Complete Teardown/Rebuild
Richard, Had grabbed it already but thank you just the same.  I find myself wanting to find some way to block out the...glyphmon — 12:03 AM
54C Complete Teardown/Rebuild
Hello roy, here is a link to the schematic . Sincerely Richardradiorich — 11:54 PM
54C Complete Teardown/Rebuild
Richard, The Silvertone 2014 also is a transformerless set, so I am incorporating a 1:1 600 ohm audio isolation transfo...glyphmon — 11:37 PM
Preliminary work on wife's Silvertone 2014
Did an alignment today which was interesting.  IF alignment went great, almost all was already spot-on.  Adjusting on th...glyphmon — 11:35 PM
54C Complete Teardown/Rebuild
The main problem with adding a Bluetooth input is that this set lacks a traditional power transformer to isolate it from...radiorich — 11:19 PM
54C Cabinet Refinish
I started stripping this cabinet before it got super chilly out because I knew I wasn't going to be able to work on ...glyphmon — 11:18 PM
54C Complete Teardown/Rebuild
While I'm waiting to wrap up the final steps on my wife's Silvertone 2014, I started disassembly on the next project.  O...glyphmon — 11:07 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>