Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

655 restoration
#36

Bouncing Tuners & Flexy Ground Straps

I've poked around with Searches and not found anything definitive on this, so I'll ask here.

My 655's tuner assembly is on soft rubber mounts, presumably for some sort of vibration isolation reason. But really? Why does a tuner need a soft mount?

BTW, tuning anti-vibration mounts for the desired effect is a whole science in itself, and it has to take into account the input vibration (ground motion), the mass and natural frequencies of protected parts, and the stiffness of the mounts. I wonder if these are just off-the-shelf mounts thrown in there just because of some suspicion that they might do something useful?

And regarding the three braided ground straps connecting tuner frame to chassis: There ain't nuthin magical, electrical, RF-ish or Litz-ish about that braid. Just like the ground strap from your car's engine to body, a braid is only used because it can take the flexing that comes from the ends' relative motion without breaking or transmitting mechanical vibration between the connected parts.
Change my mind.

But again- why does the tuner need to move in the first place? 



OK, I'll throw out one guess: The mounts don't isolate vibration... instead they allow for thermal expansion of the chassis without stressing the presumably cooler and delicate tuner frame.
In that case, why not achieve grounding via simple looped solid wire? Or even simple stranded wire? Why all the grief of these braids?


Messages In This Thread
655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-19-2023, 01:11 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-26-2023, 11:44 AM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-26-2023, 12:14 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-26-2023, 12:30 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-27-2023, 04:28 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-27-2023, 04:50 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by admin - 04-27-2023, 07:13 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-27-2023, 07:26 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by Ron Ramirez - 04-27-2023, 08:13 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by Ron Ramirez - 04-27-2023, 08:17 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-27-2023, 08:35 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by radiorich - 04-27-2023, 09:11 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-28-2023, 08:22 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-28-2023, 08:31 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-30-2023, 01:02 AM
RE: 655 restoration - by morzh - 04-30-2023, 02:13 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by RodB - 04-30-2023, 06:05 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 05-01-2023, 12:49 AM
RE: 655 restoration - by Radioroslyn - 05-01-2023, 07:18 AM
RE: 655 restoration - by Ron Ramirez - 05-01-2023, 08:27 AM
RE: 655 restoration - by Ron Ramirez - 05-01-2023, 08:40 AM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 05-01-2023, 12:53 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 05-02-2023, 11:58 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by Ron Ramirez - 05-03-2023, 07:10 AM
RE: 655 restoration - by Ron Ramirez - 05-03-2023, 07:29 AM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 05-03-2023, 11:15 AM
RE: 655 restoration - by Ron Ramirez - 05-03-2023, 12:52 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 05-08-2023, 08:53 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 05-27-2023, 02:15 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by Jordanbkc - 05-27-2023, 09:46 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 05-27-2023, 10:15 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by morzh - 05-27-2023, 10:26 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 05-28-2023, 01:33 AM
RE: What's My Model? - by patmat2350 - 04-19-2023, 01:30 PM
RE: What's My Model? - by patmat2350 - 04-19-2023, 06:08 PM
RE: What's My Model? - by patmat2350 - 04-19-2023, 06:48 PM
655 restoration - by patmat2350 - 04-19-2023, 07:43 PM
RE: Is my 655 dial OK? - by morzh - 04-19-2023, 07:52 PM
RE: Is my 655 dial OK? - by patmat2350 - 04-19-2023, 07:57 PM
RE: Is my 655 dial OK? - by Steve Davis - 04-19-2023, 08:44 PM
RE: Is my 655 dial OK? - by patmat2350 - 04-19-2023, 09:05 PM
RE: Is my 655 dial OK? - by morzh - 04-19-2023, 10:19 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by klondike98 - 04-20-2023, 02:44 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by klondike98 - 04-20-2023, 02:48 PM
RE: 655 restoration - by radiorich - 04-21-2023, 07:40 AM
Is my 655's 8mF electrolytic OK? - by patmat2350 - 04-19-2023, 09:05 PM
RE: Is my 655's 8mF electrolytic OK? - by Chas - 04-19-2023, 10:06 PM
RE: Is my 655's 8mF electrolytic OK? - by morzh - 04-19-2023, 10:22 PM
RE: What's My Model? - by patmat2350 - 04-24-2023, 06:39 PM
RE: What's My Model? - by Steve Davis - 04-24-2023, 07:36 PM
RE: What's My Model? - by patmat2350 - 04-24-2023, 08:02 PM
RE: What's My Model? - by radiorich - 04-24-2023, 08:13 PM
Tone Control Rebuild - by patmat2350 - 04-27-2023, 06:15 PM
RE: Tone Control Rebuild - by patmat2350 - 04-27-2023, 06:26 PM



Users browsing this thread:
[-]
Recent Posts
Model 80 Antenna Issue?
Thanks Gary and Rod.  I also found an article in the Philco Repair Bench under Service Hints and Tips, about installi...Hamilton — 12:32 PM
Model 80 Antenna Issue?
Hello Hamilton, here is a little information found in our Philco Radio Library at the bottom of the Home page. Hope it ...GarySP — 11:28 AM
Model 80 Antenna Issue?
I did as you suggested and touching the middle of the volume control did nothing so the coil has to be rewound. Any idea...Hamilton — 10:19 AM
1949 Motorola 5A9M
This would be the second portable in the "other radios" forum where I have a similar one in my collection. I h...Arran — 12:41 AM
Looking for any info: 1977 Ford-Philco Console Hi-Fi Turntable and Radio
Hi PittsburgTost. The record changer looks like a Garrard or BSR (Likely Garrard). The spindles just pull out and pu...MrFixr55 — 11:57 PM
Looking for any info: 1977 Ford-Philco Console Hi-Fi Turntable and Radio
Hello PittsburghToast , Welcome aboard and it looks like gary may have something for you ! now if I dig through my se...radiorich — 11:35 PM
Model 80 Antenna Issue?
You are kind of on the right path. You can touch the grid cap of the Detector/Oscillator 36 tube. I'm expecting a respon...RodB — 08:48 PM
Looking for any info: 1977 Ford-Philco Console Hi-Fi Turntable and Radio
Welcome to the Phorum, PittsburghToast!  I found an old thread that my interest you regarding the quality and worth of P...GarySP — 08:48 PM
Looking for any info: 1977 Ford-Philco Console Hi-Fi Turntable and Radio
Welcome to the Phorum! :wave: We do not have anything on that unit in our digital library. There is a Sam's Photof...klondike98 — 08:47 PM
Model 80 Antenna Issue?
I’ve replaced all the caps and resistors and the radio is working but minimal volume unless I put my hand near the re...Hamilton — 08:24 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>