Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

38-17 can caps rebuild
#1

Hello,im new to this hobby so please bare with me,my first restoration is a 38-17,ive read how to rebuild bakelite blocks so iv'e got that covered,im having a problem with the can cap,i cant find out to rebuild this one its solid,no cap on it,3 wires out the bottom,green,tan,blk #31 on the diagram of the 38-15,same chassis,right?,is there a procedure for rebuilding these solid cans,thanks for your help,Randy,...oh and great web site Ron,iv'e learned alot in a short time at least i think i have.
#2

Those rectangular metal can caps can be cleaned out and re-stuffed the same way as the bakelite block caps.
Open the can tabs carefully and re-use the fiber "plate" but use new wire leads to the new caps. Glob of hot-glue will secure the cap(s).

Chuck
#3

Thanks Chuck good to know.
#4

Holy cow,replaced all caps ,rebuilt bakelite block,and it plays,how cool,all tubes tested fine,but low audio,and gets lower when it warms up,picking up very few stations,extended antenna seems not to help,any help would be great,this is my first rebuild,thanks
#5

In order of likelyhood:

Poor tube pin to socket (Wiggle them a little while playing, see if the volume changes) Clean and retention the tube sockets, and tube pins.

Out of range resistor that goes further out of range or opens when the set warms up. There aren't very many of them, and they are cheap and easy to replace. Replace all of the carbon resistors in the power supply and audio output sections.

A diseased mic capacitor in rf or if section. They may be hiding in the IF Coils. Again, cheap and easy to just replace e.

Other (coil opening up or cold solder joint, grime remaining in one of the adjustable trimmer capacitors)

Other other ?? Have to work backwards from the speaker. Somewhere between the speaker and the antenna there is a problem.

Keep us up to date!
#6

thanks,will let you know.
#7

bad tube test,doubled checked all of them,replaced tube now have great volume,thank you so much,I have another question,How was the antenna run on a 38-17 thanks for all your help!!
#8

There are two wire leads which protrude from the back of the 38-17 chassis. One is for the antenna; the other is a ground lead. Connect your longwire antenna to the antenna lead; this is the one which will make the set louder when connected. (Connecting the antenna to the ground lead will have no effect.)

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#9

Ron,do i need to connect the ground lead to something,like back to the chassis or what,and both wires are the same length ,so hook up one and if the set gets louder thats the antenna,correct?,thank you!!
#10

Some may disagree...but I see no real necessity in connecting the ground wire to anything on a radio as recent as a 1938 Philco.

Do not attach the ground lead back to the chassis, there is no point in doing so since that lead is already connected to the chassis internally.

Yes, hook up the antenna to one of the two leads. Whichever one makes the set play louder is the antenna lead.

The original colors for the two leads were WHITE for the antenna; BROWN for the ground.

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Correct model 84 Ac plug an cord type
From what I read Philco went to using brown rubber power cords in 1936, so cloth was used in the 1935 and earlier models...Arran — 11:25 PM
Correct model 84 Ac plug an cord type
Hi Bruce, I have not worked on an 84, but in general, power cords for almost any radio prior to 1938 was cloth covered...MrFixr55 — 08:34 PM
Restoring Philco 38-14
OK, well, so after staring at the sch again, I realized the problem had to be the #12/12A padder. I put a scope on the o...morzh — 08:15 PM
Correct model 84 Ac plug an cord type
Hello Bruce, I mostly use brown far as my cloth powercords go ! Here is the plug that I have used bakelite Acorn style...radiorich — 08:05 PM
Correct model 84 Ac plug an cord type
Looking for as correct as can find the right Ac plug an the correct colored cloth line. Ive seen many old photos but mos...Bruce — 04:13 PM
Restoring Philco 38-14
Rod Two Y-caps make sense if you use them from L/N to the chassis; this is only makes sense in the transformer radios...morzh — 10:11 AM
Restoring Philco 38-14
Mike, I'm curious about a specific use of he Y cap. Lately I've seen a single cap across the power transformer primary. ...RodB — 09:01 AM
Restoring Philco 38-14
hello morzh , That sounds like a plan ! Sincerely Richardradiorich — 07:45 AM
Restoring Philco 38-14
Richard, It helped some, but I still had the whining when engaging the rear power strip (I did not realize it was fro...morzh — 07:07 AM
Restoring Philco 38-14
Hello morzh, Yes , that dreaded hum in my room where i do alighment I have my cable modem and router plus desktop plus ...radiorich — 11:25 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>