Philco 118H Cabinet, Question for Ron
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I have a Philco 118H that needs some TLC. The cabinet veneer appears to be OK, just needing cleaning and condition.
My question to Ron, keeper of the Philco Furniture History book...
The legs on mine have a few pieces that came off the legs. The veneer on the stringers as well is peeling and missing from dampness it was exposed to.
What wood are the legs made from?
What is the cabinet finish/toner color used?
What was the veneer on the stringers?
Posted here rather than a PM so others, including "glennpr" can benefit.
Thanks in advance.
Mike
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At work so will have to answer the wood type later...
"a few pieces that can off the legs"? I think you mean came off the legs?
As I recall from the one I had previously (which glennpr now owns) along with one or two others I have seen, I think Perfect Brown would be good for the cabinet overall - something a bit darker than Medium Walnut, but not a lot darker; and it needs to be an "Ultra Classic" product so you don't lose the woodgrain. The front panel originally had a "sunburst" look with the majority being Medium Walnut, with Perfect Brown around the edges. Just take a look at any of the radios being sold by Arran's favorite eBay seller "Foggy", and you will see what I mean - only this effect is on the front panel alone, not on the edges of the cabinet.
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(04-26-2012, 11:52 AM)Ron Ramirez Wrote: At work so will have to answer the wood type later...
"a few pieces that can off the legs"? I think you mean came off the legs?
As I recall from the one I had previously (which glennpr now owns) along with one or two others I have seen, I think Perfect Brown would be good for the cabinet overall - something a bit darker than Medium Walnut, but not a lot darker; and it needs to be an "Ultra Classic" product so you don't lose the woodgrain. The front panel originally had a "sunburst" look with the majority being Medium Walnut, with Perfect Brown around the edges. Just take a look at any of the radios being sold by Arran's favorite eBay seller "Foggy", and you will see what I mean - only this effect is on the front panel alone, not on the edges of the cabinet.
I attached these again. If you need any additional pictures just let me know.
Glenn
http://s1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee48...18left.jpg
http://s1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee48...18full.jpg
http://s1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee48...8front.jpg
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OK, I have the book in front of me - and, unfortunately, it does not mention the types of wood used.
Looking back, I see Furniture History stops mentioning the types of wood/veneer used after early 1933. Sorry.
The veneer on the top and sides will be some sort of walnut. Exactly what type, quarter-sawn, half-sawn, full-sawn, sawn-shawn, I don't know.
Here are Glenn's photos.
[Image: http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee48...18left.jpg]
[Image: http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee48...18full.jpg]
[Image: http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee48...8front.jpg]
I think I misspoke when I described the toners. It looks like it uses either Maison Brown (Ultra Classic) or Extra Dark Walnut (Tone Finish) on the trim pieces and possibly the legs, with Perfect Brown (Ultra Classic) overall otherwise. I think these tended to be a little bit darker overall than sets using Medium Walnut.
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(04-27-2012, 05:38 AM)Ron Ramirez Wrote: OK, I have the book in front of me - and, unfortunately, it does not mention the types of wood used.
Looking back, I see Furniture History stops mentioning the types of wood/veneer used after early 1933. Sorry.
The veneer on the top and sides will be some sort of walnut. Exactly what type, quarter-sawn, half-sawn, full-sawn, sawn-shawn, I don't know.
I think I misspoke when I described the toners. It looks like it uses either Maison Brown (Ultra Classic) or Extra Dark Walnut (Tone Finish) on the trim pieces and possibly the legs, with Perfect Brown (Ultra Classic) overall otherwise. I think these tended to be a little bit darker overall than sets using Medium Walnut.
Thanks for posting those...I tried but gave up. Seeing these pictures has me re-motivated to finish the shadowmeter coil winding and get the chassis back together and in this cabinet.
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(04-27-2012, 06:17 AM)glennpr Wrote: (04-27-2012, 05:38 AM)Ron Ramirez Wrote: OK, I have the book in front of me - and, unfortunately, it does not mention the types of wood used.
Looking back, I see Furniture History stops mentioning the types of wood/veneer used after early 1933. Sorry.
The veneer on the top and sides will be some sort of walnut. Exactly what type, quarter-sawn, half-sawn, full-sawn, sawn-shawn, I don't know.
I think I misspoke when I described the toners. It looks like it uses either Maison Brown (Ultra Classic) or Extra Dark Walnut (Tone Finish) on the trim pieces and possibly the legs, with Perfect Brown (Ultra Classic) overall otherwise. I think these tended to be a little bit darker overall than sets using Medium Walnut.
Thanks for posting those...I tried but gave up. Seeing these pictures has me re-motivated to finish the shadowmeter coil winding and get the chassis back together and in this cabinet.
Glenn
Thanks Ron, Glenn,
You two are my Philco 118H Heros!!!
Mike
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