Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Model 18 (124) Electrolytic Voltage
#1

I have been rebuilding a model 18 (code124) and I restuffed the old E-Cap cans. I recently discovered that the 10uF connected between chassis and B- (part of #59 on the schematic) is 50 volts. I used a 500 volt cap. The radio plays good but I am wondering if I need to change it back to somewhere between 50 and 100 volts.
#2

Should work just fine Pappy. Welcome to the Phorum.
Jerry

A friend in need is a pest!  Bill Slee ca 1970.
#3

One thing for sure, you won't have to worry about the surge at turnon.
#4

Thanks for the reply's, I just wonder if it will get enough voltage through it to keep it healthy over time.
#5

Doesn't matter. It's the max voltage you need to consider. You are just oversized or overrated on the cap... no harm done, should last a long time

Don
#6

Well, let's be correct: for tube radios this in practice does not matter, you only have to deal with a larger size cap where you could use a smaller one.

Outside the tube radio applications yes, you do not want a higher voltage cap in place of a low voltage one. At least most of the times.
#7

morzh Wrote:Outside the tube radio applications yes, you do not want a higher voltage cap in place of a low voltage one.

Why? Just curious and interested...thx.
#8

I think it has something to do with ESR?
#9

Yes, more or less. That is ESR/ripple vs size vs capacitance vs voltage.

Well, eventually comes down to size.

Same size will have lower capacitance vs higher voltage dependency, and the ripple rating either stays the same or goes down if you keep the same case size but increase the voltage. Most times, especially if the increase in voltage is several times, it will go down.

So you have to increase the size quite a bit since you want the same capacitance and not lose your ripple rating. In old radios we are not limited with the space.
In any other applications we are.

Also in commercial consumer application the significant difference in price between even 16V and 50V caps of the same capacitance and ripple rating will simply kill you. Icon_smile
#10

Thanks for the explanation morzh and Brenda. ESR in my field is electron spin resonance Icon_lol




Users browsing this thread: 6 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Philco 46-420 Code 121 Reception issues
Welcome Eric, I agree with Bob and far as the two main electrolytic filter capacitors did you change them yourself or w...radiorich — 11:43 PM
Philco 46-420 Code 121 Reception issues
You mentioned the Philco manual and going through the check points...just to be sure we're on the same page here's the m...klondike98 — 08:13 PM
Philco 42-1008 conversion kit
Interesting. I haven't seen that before.klondike98 — 07:02 PM
12' Philco
Yes I had looked for it on the web as well some time back and could not find it. I was glad to see it turned up in Ron'...klondike98 — 06:59 PM
Shadow Meter Bulb
Now if you had a set with a tuning light then the bulb type is important to the circuit, some sets used those prior to t...Arran — 04:58 PM
Shadow Meter Bulb
Ok. Thanks for the correction.RossH — 03:09 PM
Model 28L
For 28 you will probably need to buy a Hammond 125CSE. Or any of the series of the power you need, with SE suffix. Then ...morzh — 02:09 PM
37-60 revision 6
I am restoring a Philco 37-60 and it shows run 6 they removed the ground from G3 of the 6K7G and put the G3 to -2.5v for...bobbyd1200 — 01:01 PM
Shadow Meter Bulb
Mike is correct on the bulb connection, two separate circuits. I found that by rotating the bulb and sliding it forward ...RodB — 12:19 PM
Hickok AC51 tube tester
Cleaned ann contacts, switches and sockets, works great now.martinj — 11:32 AM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently 7059 online users. [Complete List]
» 1 Member(s) | 7058 Guest(s)
Avatar

>