Rebuilt in the 40s by a Philco Shop?
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I seldom find repair work that I like. Most is OK. A lot is BAD. I remember on chassis I was so impressed with, It had a repair tag, that I tried to find the shop in SF CA that did the work. It wasn't there anymore.
Anyway, here is the chassis from the 15 that I posted a few weeks ago. It appears to have been rebuilt by a Philco shop with all new Philco caps and a complete set of Philco tubes (ST post 1937).
They carefully trimmed the connection on the Bakelite blocks before installing new caps. I see an exception, that I suspect has an imbedded resistor. I will have to check.
So, I wonder if restoring the "repair" would be more historically significant than the "normal" restoration. They did damage the blocks, if only in a small way. And It will have to be a restuff anyway, the blocks being easier, in my opinion.
The chassis is almost spotless. I think that this radio will take the place of the 37-116 in our living room.
I have yet to find an indication of which shop did the work.
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To me it is not that important.
I would keep the repair as it was, after all, a Philco shop, and this relates to the history of the radio.
Re-stuff the tubulars.
I mean, those times, they did not regard it as restoration, they did repairs, and I accept that and I would keep that.
PS. The chassis looks very much like 111.
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Yeah, except for the light hanging out of the bottom.
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Interesting dilemma...restore to the original or restore to an historical repair. Do you include documentation of what you did in the restoration Russ? If so, it could indicate the restoration is an example of a 1940's repair job. That would make it clear to the next owner whats what. If not, I think if you were to sell it, I'd rather see an original restoration. Just my 2 cents.
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On most of my restorations, for myself, and those that I have done for others, I keep a photo-record, which is where these pictures are coming from.
You've seen my before and after pictures?
Thanks for both of your input(s). If this chassis were not so nice and if it weren't a 15X going into my living room. I am sure that I would restore the repair - if that makes any sense.
I would like more opinions, especially if Ron happens to visit this site. Ah, but he's probably out messing with some Fisher stereo or something.
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I'd restore the repair for one simple reason.... you can restore a radio back to original almost anytime, but you rarely find such a nice example of an early repair. Either way it will be a very nice example for display.
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How many examples of authentic Philco repairs are there? Few. You have one.
And , speaking of Living room, repair is not the part that is displayed anyway.
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Phlogiston Wrote:I would like more opinions, especially if Ron happens to visit this site. Ah, but he's probably out messing with some Fisher stereo or something.
Thanks for asking. I'm here every day but I have been busy lately, only not with a Fisher - I'm slowly rebuilding a 37-690 amp/power supply chassis.
Anyway...I say do what suits you. You seem inclined already to replicate the 1940s repair by restuffing the paper caps, so if that's what you want to do, then by all means, you should.
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An interesting set!!
What gets me is that vice replacing the bakelite blocks with new replacements, the "Tech" laid wax/paper caps over them after removing the bakelite-block terminals.
If you are inclined to do so, I would re-stuff the paper replacement caps and preserve the "repair."
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It has a very imposing presence.
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Yes. With only very little toner, applied to the columns only, it is naturally very dark wood.
Sue likes it. It is now in the kitchen.
It replaced this radio:
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-Which I will now have to sell.
It is all restored/recapped/restuffed. Sold
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Well, as a furniture maybe the 15 is better.
But as a radio the other one wins.
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Yes it does, but we try to limit our "collection" to Pre 1940 radios anyway.
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It looks to me like the old caps are still in the circuit. I'd recommend cutting the little wires that come thru the rivet and push them down inside the block.
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