Philco 610 transformer open
Posts: 177
Threads: 19
Joined: Feb 2014
City: The Motor City,Detroit MI
I recently recapped a Philco 610b tabletop unit I acquired a year ago. Being a novice, I waited until after recapping to check the coils. The coils are fine. But I found the primary of the main transformer is open. My tube tester also found zero conductance on three of the five tubes. I suspect the radio experienced an "event."
I can replace the tubes. But what are my options with the transformer? Is it rewindable? Are there replacements (PN 32-7381)?
Posts: 15,819
Threads: 554
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson, NJ
You need a SE (single-ended) transformer for a 42 tube with about 1:100 turns ratio.
Try Oldradioparts.com
I looked at Hammond 125 SE series, they do not provide 1 Ohm to 10kOhm, so they do not match well.
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2014, 10:30 AM by morzh.)
Posts: 15,819
Threads: 554
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson, NJ
1345-213 OUTPUT UNK 22E4 SP, 100:1 RATIO, 5-6 WATTS, FIG 3, TOP SEC LUGS, PRI 3"L,U 1 2 3/8 2 0/0 1 1/4 2.25
This is Fig. 3
http://oldradioparts.com/2a23g2.jpg
http://oldradioparts.com/2a23dfl.txt
Unfortunately there is a minimum order of $20.
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2014, 10:34 AM by morzh.)
Posts: 177
Threads: 19
Joined: Feb 2014
City: The Motor City,Detroit MI
Thanks. I see a 1450-703 used piece in the list that looks to be available. I may as well get the tubes from there as well.
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2014, 11:02 AM by Kestas.)
Posts: 2,572
Threads: 337
Joined: Jun 2013
City: lawrenceville nj
hi kestas
is it (PN 32-7381)? or pn 32-8137n
sam
Posts: 3,135
Threads: 54
Joined: Apr 2011
City: Lexington, KY
(10-22-2014, 10:11 AM)Kestas Wrote: .....But I found the primary of the main transformer is open........Are there replacements (PN 32-7381)?
I think there are two different transformers being discussed here. Morzh is referring to an output transformer and I think you might be referring to the power transformer. It might be a good idea to clarify exactly which transformer you're looking for. PN 32-7381 is the power transformer.
John KK4ZLF
Lexington, KY
"illegitimis non carborundum"
Posts: 15,819
Threads: 554
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson, NJ
Oops, my bad, thought we were talking of the output transformer.
Disregard.
Posts: 1,562
Threads: 56
Joined: Nov 2008
City: Sedona, AZ/Placentia/CA
John, I was thinking the same thing. If it is the power transformer, depending on how you tested the primary, it could be a defective on/off switch.
Best, Jerry
A friend in need is a pest! Bill Slee ca 1970.
Posts: 15,819
Threads: 554
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson, NJ
Kestas
Did you check your primary with across the AC plug or actual transformer wires?
Posts: 177
Threads: 19
Joined: Feb 2014
City: The Motor City,Detroit MI
I checked many different ways, but finally I checked after the switch and power cord - directly on the wires coming from the transformer. There was no deflection on my ohmmeter.
And yes, we're talking about the power transformer. I'll verify the number off the part itself when I get home.
Posts: 1,562
Threads: 56
Joined: Nov 2008
City: Sedona, AZ/Placentia/CA
Sounds bad Kestas, nothing to lose removing and taking off the end bells to pray that it is a bad connection coming from the external wires to the coil. Philcos generally have good power transformers unlike the Zeniths that seem to be under rated and prone to opening.
A friend in need is a pest! Bill Slee ca 1970.
Posts: 177
Threads: 19
Joined: Feb 2014
City: The Motor City,Detroit MI
The part itself is stamped #32-7381N. It looks like the event took out the rectifier tube (80), detector/oscillator (6A7), and IF tube (78 ). Two of them have open filaments.
Also, the resistor for the rectifier emitter - R39, 10k ohm, 2W - looks burnt, but ohms out okay within spec.
I'll poke around some more before ordering the replacement part.
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2014, 10:11 PM by Kestas.)
Posts: 15,819
Threads: 554
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson, NJ
Kestas,
At this point it might pay to try to look for another chassis (or for a similar one) as a donor or direct replacement.
However, from the same website:
1450-703 POWER PHILCO 32-7381 340-0-340V @65ma, 5V 2A, 6.3V 2.2A, MODEL 610/620, FIG 2,U 1 3 1/2 2 3/8 3 0/0 15.75
http://oldradioparts.com/2a23efl.txt
See if this is what you need.
PS. If I were you, I'd call him right now.
(This post was last modified: 10-23-2014, 10:56 AM by morzh.)
Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
|
Recent Posts
|
1930s Stromberg-Carlson Tombstone Radio need help identifying model number
|
Hi Cap'n Clock,
Unfortunately, I do not have this radio. This is a shame because this should be a good performer. 2A5...MrFixr55 — 06:48 AM |
American Bosch Model 802 auto radio
|
I think it would come under either American Bosch or United American Bosch. American Bosch made sets for the American We...Arran — 05:53 AM |
trying to identify this wire type
|
Thanks to all for the feedback. As Arran said, it is probably an older replacement and yes it has a grid cap so I will ...georgetownjohn — 09:32 PM |
trying to identify this wire type
|
It's possible that the red wire, actually a grid cap lead, is a very old replacement, I can't remember seeing a pre 1939...Arran — 09:18 PM |
Gilfillan Brothers Car Radio?
|
Hi everyone,
Special thanks to Joe Rossi for tracking down this obscure radio and thanks to others who took up the hun...Antipodal — 08:15 PM |
trying to identify this wire type
|
Here's one source for your wire of many.
Take care and BE HEALTHY! Gary
P.S. Can't get the right color you need? I ...GarySP — 06:40 PM |
trying to identify this wire type
|
...and modern wire of the appropriate gauges and insulation V-rating (300V minimum, usually shown right on the wire) is ...morzh — 05:47 PM |
1930s Stromberg-Carlson Tombstone Radio need help identifying model number
|
I have a question about this radio, is there anyone that has access to this radio that has an intact unmolested speaker ...captainclock1988 — 04:28 PM |
1930s Stromberg-Carlson Tombstone Radio need help identifying model number
|
Well what makes me confuse all of those companies is that all three of those companies (Setchell-Carlson, Stromberg-Carl...captainclock1988 — 04:21 PM |
trying to identify this wire type
|
The red wire is rubber covered wire.
The others are cotton braid over rubber often in colors or a tracer, also strand...Chas — 02:43 PM |
Who's Online
|
There are currently 5784 online users. [Complete List] » 1 Member(s) | 5783 Guest(s)
|
|
|
|