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Ecap help
#1

unknown maker radio. 2 ecaps in cardboard box. One goes to chassis and pin 4 or 5 of the 25L6. Other goes to a terminal strip and pin 3 of the 25Z5. Any ideas?

Kirk

Times I have been electrocuted in 2021
As of 1/01/2021
AC: 4 DC: 1
Last year: 6
#2

If you have the tube line up we might have a shot at identifying the radio. From there we can sort out the caps.

Here is link that might help you identify your radio based on the tubes.
http://grillecloth.com/sylvania/tubelist.php
#3

Here is the link.

http://grillecloth.com/sylvania/tubelist...ubmit&db=3

Times I have been electrocuted in 2021
As of 1/01/2021
AC: 4 DC: 1
Last year: 6
#4

I have found that before but zero other info

Kirk

Times I have been electrocuted in 2021
As of 1/01/2021
AC: 4 DC: 1
Last year: 6
#5

Are you saying you have the schematic?  If not, I have Riders 8-4 and can send you a screenshot of it.
#6

Schematic 8-4 shows the C20 containing 4 electrolytics.
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/831/M0001831.htm

Carl
Northern Panhandle, WV
#7

Yeah, either this schematic is the wrong one, or the radio has been worked on previously.
#8

The Ecap block looks original to the radio but only 4 wires coming out of it.

I will have to cross reference the schematic with the radio when I go back to the house.

Thanks for the link too.

It is a clock radio but the clock would not be on the schematic right?

Kirk


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Times I have been electrocuted in 2021
As of 1/01/2021
AC: 4 DC: 1
Last year: 6
#9

One of you radios I worked on last summer had that.

Just trace the wires.
The caps are likely to be 20uF and 10uF, if the radio is an AA5 set without doubler rectifier.
The voltage rating can be 250V as there is no step-up transformer.
The max you could get fom 120V is 168VDC before you load it.
Once loaded it is much lower.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#10

The 4 wires would be the + lead of each cap. My guess is that there is probably a bracket or something similar that mounts to the chassis to provide the common ground.
#11

I thought that too but nothing. There are 2 screws holding the box on but i did not see a ground strip or anything else. I will peel the cardboard tomorrow and see.

Kirk

Times I have been electrocuted in 2021
As of 1/01/2021
AC: 4 DC: 1
Last year: 6
#12

Do two of the wires go to the same place? If so then that may be your common ground.
Terry
#13

All 4 go somewhere different Terry.

One to chassis, one to 35L6, one to a terminal strip and one to 25Z5

Kirk

Times I have been electrocuted in 2021
As of 1/01/2021
AC: 4 DC: 1
Last year: 6
#14

Wll, one minus to chassis, one pls to after rectifier 25Z5, then there is field coil, and one plus after the field coil (at the output transformer and likely the screen grid of 35L6
The fourth minus is the one I am not sure where it goes. But it goes to that terminal strip, and it is likely to be some low ohms resistance to chassis.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#15

 First something isn't correct here, the set can't have a 25Z5 and a 36L6 tube, one has a 300 ma heater and the other a 150 ma heater, and this is a series string set. So either it uses a 25L6, 25A5, or a 43 for an output tube.
  Unfortunately I can't read the schematic thanks to this P.O.C computer, but in any event four wires coming out of that condenser box could mean a couple of things. One could be that the set uses a fixed bias supply, like one in a pre war AC set, where one filter cap has it's negative connected to the most negative point in the power supply and the second one has it's negative end connected to a slightly less negative point usually to a resistor running between that point and a more negative one. Another possiblity could be that the included some paper caps inside that box, like large bypass caps.
Regards
Arran




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