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41-608 distortion issue
#1

Hello all
Got a 41-608 that I recapped about a year ago. Lately the highs have been distorted on the phono. I replaced the cart and needle but made no difference. Could a tube be an issue or a cap went bad ?

Thank you
#2

Good evening! Could you elaborate a bit more on the distortion? Is it perhaps static-y sounding, for instance, or is it higher or lower in tone than it should be? Also, was it a rapid onset or has it been more progressive?

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906
#3

Good evening
For example s sounds are distorted you cringe when you hear it. It seems to have come on suddenly. Highs are the issue lows are fine

Thanks for the reply
#4

I was formerly an audio-video system engineer. The “s” sound is a great test to the frequency reproduction of a system. I think I understand exactly what you’re hearing now. Probably sounds like a radio that’s not quite tuned to a particular station, doesn’t it?

Sounds like a change in capacitance if you ask me. But given that you say it was a sudden onset, I’m almost inclined to say it’s a tube issue. Certain failures within tubes can cause changes in capacitance from pin to pin.

Just as a sanity check, have you tried playing different records? Does the radio mode sound normal?

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906
#5

I have Tried several different records with same result. I even played the same records on my 46-1209 and they play fine. The radio seems to play fine.
#6

To me it definitely sounds like an issue with the 7C7 preamp tube. You’ve pretty well narrowed it down. You might just verify that there aren’t any damaged capacitors in that section of the circuit, though I doubt it if you recapped the system last year.

Let’s see if any of the experts here have an opinion! I’m pretty new to tube circuitry, myself.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906
#7

Thank you so much for the fast reply. I will Test that 7c7 and let you know

Thanks again
#8

You’re welcome! I’m following with a curiosity. I have a 49-906 which had a tube go out on the FM RF circuit, and it caused a similar issue with audio reproduction. Just the same, I was able to narrow it down to just the one function, and found it to be the tube. That’s really the only reason I’m feeling confident in my assumption.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906
#9

This set has 7c6 tubes. I will Test both.
Thank you. I’ll post the result
#10

Ah, so you have a code 122 model of the 41-608. I had to do some digging!

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906




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