Posts: 4,106
Threads: 310
Joined: Nov 2013
City: Kings Park NY
I got this Philco 42-340 and have begun restoring it. AMAZINGLY it is completely untouched. It even has all the original caps, including the Ecaps.
My issue is this... I have never had a radio that was not in need of full restoration. This one needs work but I am not sure if it needs a full strip and refinish. There is flaking and cracking but these issues can be touched up. I gave it a good cleaning which helped and repaired most of the stress cracks on the curves but am stuck.
I would love to leave it original but think it looks boring. I was thinking a nice walnut on the curves and perfect brown down the front but I would really appreciate your suggestions.
Times I have been electrocuted in 2021
As of 1/01/2021
AC: 4 DC: 1
Last year: 6
Posts: 262
Threads: 27
Joined: Jan 2010
City: Rochester, NY
I have the same set in pretty much the same condition. I agree the look is a bit drab. I think the grillcloth looks like a potato sack. Same as mine. Changing the grillcloth might give it some pazzaz.
Posts: 16,476
Threads: 573
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson
State, Province, Country: NJ
It is a good looking cabinet the way it is. If the original finish looks this good, I think it is worth preserving.
Posts: 736
Threads: 26
Joined: Jun 2013
City: Hayward, California
Yea, if the original finish is good, I vote to leave it like that. You could put a few coats of clear gloss over it and rub it out, would make it very nice.
Posts: 246
Threads: 27
Joined: Aug 2013
City: Petaluma, CA
I would leave it the way it is as it is a very nice looking radio as it sits. You can always redo it at a later time if desired. Besides, isn't your plate pretty full as it is? LOL
Craig R.
Posts: 16,476
Threads: 573
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson
State, Province, Country: NJ
he's a glutton.
Kirk, you need to wean yourself a bit off of that. Why don't you buy a radio with finished cabinet and a bad chassis for a change. WIll do you good.
Posts: 4,106
Threads: 310
Joined: Nov 2013
City: Kings Park NY
I have enough easier chassis that I can't do yet. I gotta learn to check coils and tweek things like all you guys do. Many of the radios I have need more than just caps. I have finished my 45 but still get nothing, not a sound. so there is obviously something further wrong than just the caps. I don't even know where to start. Gotta get more reading in before I get I to that. The past owner said he jumped it and it played well but I don't know what the heck that means...
As for the cabinet, if I can't hide the cracking I may just go a bit darker on the curved sides.
Times I have been electrocuted in 2021
As of 1/01/2021
AC: 4 DC: 1
Last year: 6
Posts: 3,148
Threads: 56
Joined: Apr 2011
City: Lexington, KY
Quote:As for the cabinet, if I can't hide the cracking I may just go a bit darker on the curved sides.
Kirk, with cracks like that in the waterfall veneer what are some methods you use to hide it? I consider that issue to usually be remedied by veneer replacement, but if it can be made less noticeable, that would often be preferable.
In your last picture the cracks look less noticeable, not sure if that is the lighting, or if you had done something to the cracked area already.
John KK4ZLF
Lexington, KY
"illegitimis non carborundum"
Posts: 599
Threads: 24
Joined: Jan 2014
City: Edmonton AB CA
I have that same radio and there must have been an issue with the ink or paint they used to make the dial glass as every one I have seen have few to no markings left. Luck would have it that Radio Daze makes a really nice repo of that dial glass.
Gregb
Posts: 4,106
Threads: 310
Joined: Nov 2013
City: Kings Park NY
I am currently working on the cracks so the picture is the progression of the repairs. As for the dial glass, I paid $30 for the radio and $44 for the dial glass seems quite ridiculous to me. Ill get a scan or something. radiodaze is crazy for asking those prices since there is no one else to go to to get them.
Times I have been electrocuted in 2021
As of 1/01/2021
AC: 4 DC: 1
Last year: 6
Posts: 599
Threads: 24
Joined: Jan 2014
City: Edmonton AB CA
Well again you guys are spoiled down there as I paid more for freight for my radio than you did for your radio.
Gregb
Posts: 496
Threads: 15
Joined: Mar 2013
City: Weymouth Ma
Myself I like the used look. To me the radio isn't new so it doesn't need to look new although I can appreciate the work that goes into getting them to look so nice.
Henry
Posts: 4,859
Threads: 54
Joined: Sep 2008
City: Sandwick, BC, CA
John;
I don't think there really isn't any way to repair veneer cracked across the grain like that short of replacement, just like you said. I know because I have tried, on the sides of a Canadian RCA A-20 years ago, and there they are again. It's a structural problem, something underneath has expanded and cracked the veneer, probably due to improper storage or a design flaw. Once it has cracked it never really goes away because the fibers of the veneer are always under stress right where there wrap around that curve.
Regards
Arran
Posts: 403
Threads: 40
Joined: Feb 2011
City: McPherson, KS
If it looks that good after 72 years, why not let it rest on its laurels???
Posts: 3,148
Threads: 56
Joined: Apr 2011
City: Lexington, KY
Quote:..... I know because I have tried, on the sides of a Canadian RCA A-20 years ago, and there they are again. It's a structural problem, something underneath has expanded and cracked the veneer, probably due to improper storage or a design flaw. Once it has cracked it never really goes away because the fibers of the veneer are always under stress right where there wrap around that curve.
Thanks Arran, that's pretty much what I figured too. I always cringe when I see cracks in that area on cabinets, but we'll see how well Kirk does in blending them in, but like you say I'm afraid that is a short term solution.
John KK4ZLF
Lexington, KY
"illegitimis non carborundum"
Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
|
Recent Posts
|
Zenith H725
|
The PSU filter cap arrived today (thank you USPS!) so I will work on that later.
Meanwhile, I have the dial, speaker...EdHolland — 06:42 PM |
Philco 610B oscillator wiring
|
Thanks Terry. After checking my notes I think I recorded about -10v at the 6A7 G4/control grid. The screen grid (G3 &...Tubester — 05:59 PM |
The list of my radio & TV collection!
|
Magical chords of forgotten melodies, old nostalgic music on an old radio... Saturday night blues on the Mid-Waves on an...RadioSvit — 12:20 PM |
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
|
Thank you MrFixr55 the issue with this radio is that the internal coil antenna is missing and there was a wire in its pl...osanders0311 — 11:34 AM |
Philco 610B oscillator wiring
|
Regarding the oscillator circuit which is comprised of the 6A7's cathode, control grid, and screen grid. These elements ...Radioroslyn — 10:33 AM |
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
|
Hi OSanders,
First off, welcome to the Philco Phorum where Phine Phamily-Phriendly Pholks Phull of Philco Phacts and P...MrFixr55 — 08:41 AM |
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
|
Today I've been reading through the site trying to learn more about this radio. I also soldered the lose power cord cabl...osanders0311 — 08:24 PM |
Philco 610B oscillator wiring
|
Thanks David! I do have that same later prodution model 610 schematic. I've also studied the Philco service bulletins fo...Tubester — 08:12 PM |
Philco 610B oscillator wiring
|
Some info from Beitmans says late production. David David — 06:06 PM |
Restoring Philco 96
|
Oh wow! Just found this thread. Brings me back to early days on this phorum. I did a 96 back in 2017. Thread here:
...rfeenstra — 06:05 PM |
Who's Online
|
There are currently 2410 online users. [Complete List] » 1 Member(s) | 2409 Guest(s)
|
|
|

|