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Philco 38-690 tweeter improvement
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Ron Ramirez Wrote:If you compare the schematics of the 37-690 and 38-690, you will see that the tweeters are driven by the output tubes in the 37-690, as is the woofer. This is the reason the tweeters are so loud in the 37 model. (Too loud, in my opinion; even taking the NRSC pre-emphasis curve into consideration.

The whole problem lies in the size of the "tweeters". I agree with you on the upper limit frequency of around 10Khz. I think the Philco engineerz designed this model to be "impressive" hence the illogical size of the tweeters (one would have be sufficient AFAIK). 4" tweeters would offer a better frequency response and also be a better match to the woofer. In such a design, the engineer should have taken into account the response curve and sound pressure of the woofer then match the tweeters with a simple resistor/capacitor network, something they obviously didn't do.

Interesting that Philco adopted such a complicated solution in adding a special winding to the driver transformer instead of adding a simple resistor/cap network to the tweeters and keeping them in parallel with the woofer. I guess they were radio engineers, not audio engineers...

By looking at the schematic, a 6F6 used as a driver (equivalent to an SE amp) I figured 1-2Watts to be enough to drive both tweeters. I guessed wrong apparently. My suggestion in this case would be to add a small value power resistor (say 4ohms) in series with a 4uF cap. The whole in parallel with the _woofer_. This should do it. Idea is to match the total db level of "tweeters vs the woofer".

I would also add a small "whizzer" to the tweeters. Yeah I know, it's hot-rodding, but it is reversible and will definitely enhance the upper frequencies. I did it with my top of the line Nothern console's 12 inches -in a ported enclosure mind you- and it did a very noticeable difference (I had to recone the woofer too so it wasn't complicated to do). I have plenty of whizzers on hand so this was an easy fix, still it is pretty simple to make one using cardstock. Definitely worth it.

Just a thought.

Syl


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Re: Philco 38-690 tweeter improvement - by Syl - 07-25-2008, 10:16 AM
Re: Philco 38-690 tweeter improvement - by Syl - 07-25-2008, 08:19 PM
[No subject] - by Ron Ramirez - 07-25-2008, 09:39 PM
[No subject] - by wonderwrench - 07-25-2008, 09:52 PM
[No subject] - by Ron Ramirez - 07-25-2008, 10:49 PM
[No subject] - by Dave Slusarczyk - 07-25-2008, 10:53 PM
[No subject] - by wonderwrench - 07-25-2008, 11:06 PM
[No subject] - by Ron Ramirez - 07-25-2008, 11:06 PM
[No subject] - by Ron Ramirez - 07-25-2008, 11:13 PM
[No subject] - by Dave Slusarczyk - 07-25-2008, 11:59 PM
[No subject] - by BDM - 07-26-2008, 12:40 AM
[No subject] - by wonderwrench - 07-26-2008, 12:48 AM
[No subject] - by wonderwrench - 07-26-2008, 01:30 AM
[No subject] - by Syl - 07-26-2008, 08:33 AM
[No subject] - by Ron Ramirez - 07-26-2008, 09:20 AM
[No subject] - by Syl - 07-26-2008, 11:52 AM
[No subject] - by Dave Slusarczyk - 07-26-2008, 03:33 PM
[No subject] - by wonderwrench - 07-26-2008, 03:47 PM
[No subject] - by wonderwrench - 07-26-2008, 03:53 PM
[No subject] - by Ron Ramirez - 07-26-2008, 04:40 PM
[No subject] - by Syl - 07-26-2008, 04:51 PM
[No subject] - by Syl - 07-26-2008, 04:55 PM
[No subject] - by Dave Slusarczyk - 07-26-2008, 05:50 PM
[No subject] - by Syl - 07-26-2008, 07:17 PM
[No subject] - by Dave Slusarczyk - 07-26-2008, 09:26 PM
[No subject] - by Syl - 07-26-2008, 11:11 PM
[No subject] - by Dave Slusarczyk - 07-27-2008, 01:02 PM
[No subject] - by Terry Judkins - 07-27-2008, 05:59 PM
[No subject] - by wonderwrench - 07-27-2008, 06:11 PM
[No subject] - by Dave Slusarczyk - 07-27-2008, 06:53 PM
[No subject] - by wonderwrench - 07-27-2008, 09:00 PM
[No subject] - by Syl - 07-28-2008, 10:21 AM
[No subject] - by Dave Slusarczyk - 07-28-2008, 05:10 PM
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[No subject] - by Ron Ramirez - 07-28-2008, 05:59 PM
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