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40-165 Tube layout label
#1

All, I'm finishing up the cabinet on my Radiobar Zephyr with a Philco 40-165 and the tube layout label  is missing.  I think I can make a replica but I need something close to start from.  I found the image below on an old  ebay listing that  I can  use as a template  but  I need approximate dimensions for the label.  The best  scenario would a good photo of a label from a console of similar  vintage.  Can some one provide some guidance  on the dimensions  or perhaps a better photo? 
Thanks in advance,
Keith


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#2

(11-16-2014, 11:13 AM)keith49vj3 Wrote:  All, I'm finishing up the cabinet on my Radiobar Zephyr with a Philco 40-165 and the tube layout label  is missing.  I think I can make a replica but I need something close to start from.  I found the image below on an old  ebay listing that  I can  use as a template  but  I need approximate dimensions for the label.  The best  scenario would a good photo of a label from a console of similar  vintage.  Can some one provide some guidance  on the dimensions  or perhaps a better photo? 
Thanks in advance,
Keith

I threw this together in less than an hour using powerpoint but my fonts are all wrong.  Can anyone recommend a font type that's closer?

Thanks,
Keith


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#3

Not sure about the other fonts, offhand, but the two paragraphs below the chassis drawing should be Geometric 231.

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Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#4

You can clearly see that while the label in Philco uses seifs (PHILCO itself, PRINTED ETC), yours does not.
#5

Copperplate Gothic Condensed for the other lettering.

I still haven't figured out the proper font for the label's part number (39-6283).

Keith, if you do not have these fonts, send me a PM.

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Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#6

(11-18-2014, 07:12 AM)Ron Ramirez Wrote:  Copperplate Gothic Condensed for the other lettering.

I still haven't figured out the proper font for the label's part number (39-6283).

Keith, if you do not have these fonts, send me a PM.

Ron, the problem I'm having is that my font collection is limited and whenever I go to one of the free font websites my anti-virus software pops up with warnings and many of the font websites try to install search toolbars.  If you have these fonts please send them to my email address.  For $12.00 it may be safer to have one made by http://www.vintageradiolabels.com/ .  On the other hand, if we can figure this out we could have a template for the Philco's labels that use the same format.
Thanks,
Keith
#7

Vintageradiolabels.com does a great job with photofinish...but their labels, to me, are lacking in that they do not use the correct fonts. At least, the labels I have seen pictures of by them do not have correct fonts. H**l, anyone can do that. It takes some time and effort to do this right.

"Ask, and ye shall receive..."

Fonts heading your way.

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Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#8

(11-18-2014, 08:08 AM)Ron Ramirez Wrote:  Vintageradiolabels.com does a great job with photofinish...but their labels, to me, are lacking in that they do not use the correct fonts. At least, the labels I have seen pictures of by them do not have correct fonts. H**l, anyone can do that. It takes some time and effort to do this right.

"Ask, and ye shall receive..."

Fonts heading your way.

Thanks to Ron I'm getting closer.


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#9

How about this?

[Image: http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k420/...g~original]

The "PRINTED IN U.S.A." is a bit too large, and I did not change the tube numbers.

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Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#10

This looks much better, serifs are all in place and alignment is no longer off.
The bottom size...the label's photo is at an angle, hard to tell. I guess, looks close for the size.
#11

Well morzh taught me a new word. For others like me here's the Wiki definition.
Serif
In typography, a serif /ˈsɛrɪf/ is a small line attached to the end of a stroke in a letter or symbol, such as when handwriting is separated into distinct units for a typewriter or typesetter. A typeface with serifs is called a serif typeface (or serifed typeface).

Ron, what program are you using for your drawing?

Keith
#12

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serif

Here's the illustration to what Serif is.

This is why that other class of fonts without them is called Sans Serif, which is French for "No/without Seriffs".
#13

I had to use Photoshop (CS5) for the "PHILCO" and "REG. U.S. PAT.OFF." at the top, because the letters needed to have small spaces between them and that is a trick I cannot do in Paint Shop Pro. For the rest, I used my old but handy Paint Shop Pro 4.14 which is 17 year old software but still runs in Windows 8.1.

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Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#14

Okay, this became a challenge. Just before I take my computer offline for the rest of the day (it's started acting wonky...enough that I feel a reformat & reinstall is in order), I have fine-tuned the label as follows:

[Image: http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k420/...g~original]

You're welcome.

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I had to guess at the font for the tube numbers - looking at the original, it looks like it *might* be Copperplate Gothic Condensed as well; I think I see serifs in the characters? Anyway, there you go.

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Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#15

 Was the centerline of the large circles representing the type #84 and the #41 tubes in like with the rest in the picture of the original or is that just because it was taken at an angle?
Regards
Arran




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